OK, I found the problem. There's another item with the same name in the View > Group Field submenu that's stealing the shortcut. That's one of the problems with identifying items by title rather than action.
Christiaan On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:52, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > The menu item is active when a detail window for a non-external item is key. > But that's irrelevant, because system defined shortcuts should also be > assigned when the menu item is not active, at least that's what I see for > other items, and also in this particular case when I open a window for an > external publication. > > Why this one behaves so strange I don't know. The relation between the status > bar seems coincidental, perhaps something to do with priorities because that > menu item also occurs in the popup there). It is name-specific, as I get the > problem with Add Field… and Remove Field…, but not with other items like > Change Field Name…. I'm pretty much convinced it's a bug somewhere in the > system, as there's nothing special in our code for these items. My guess is > that these items somehow conflict with some default items somewhere in the > system and it gets confused. > > Christiaan > > On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:08, Fischlin Andreas wrote: > >> Indeed a GUI bug. I can repeat this behavior on my system too and agree that >> either the command should either be greyed out, because inactive or fully >> active including any keyboard shortcut. The question would then only be what >> are the conditions to trigger active status, edit window open AND status bar >> or is an open edit window really already sufficient to make the command >> active. In my view the status bar should not matter for the menu command, >> since the + at the lower left corner is in my understanding merely an >> alternative to the menu command. >> >> Regards, >> Andreas >> >> >> ETH Zurich >> Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin >> Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology >> CHN E 21.1 >> Universitaetstrasse 16 >> 8092 Zurich >> SWITZERLAND >> >> [email protected] >> www.sysecol.ethz.ch >> >> +41 44 633-6090 phone >> +41 44 633-1136 fax >> +41 79 221-4657 mobile >> >> Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it! >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> On 20/Apr/2010, at 09:44 , Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: >> >>> In this case it is not greyed out and the menu item is usable, only >>> the shortcut doesn't show up when the status bar is hidden. >>> >>> Niels >>> >>> On 20.04.2010, at 09:40, "Fischlin Andreas" <[email protected] >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> Admitted, it is confusing that shortcuts don't show up while the >>>> menu command is clearly visible, albeit greyed out (inactive). >>>> >>>> I'm not sure this to be a bug, but others knowing Objective C and >>>> Apple's frameworks and how BibDesk makes use of it better than me >>>> should judge on this. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Andreas >>>> >>>> >>>> ETH Zurich >>>> Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin >>>> Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology >>>> CHN E 21.1 >>>> Universitaetstrasse 16 >>>> 8092 Zurich >>>> SWITZERLAND >>>> >>>> [email protected] >>>> www.sysecol.ethz.ch >>>> >>>> +41 44 633-6090 phone >>>> +41 44 633-1136 fax >>>> +41 79 221-4657 mobile >>>> >>>> Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it! >>>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 20/Apr/2010, at 09:09 , Niels Kobschätzki wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> On 20 Apr 2010, at 08:18, Fischlin Andreas wrote: >>>>> >>>>> <snip> >>>>> >>>>>> Do you see the status bar at the bottom of the edit window of the >>>>>> publication with which you are testing this? Unless you have the >>>>>> status bar active, the shortcut does indeed not show up. Use menu >>>>>> command "View -> Show Status Bar" and "View -> Hide Status Bar", >>>>>> respectively, to control the visibility of the status bar at the >>>>>> bottom of edit windows. Unless you checked all these things out I >>>>>> doubt there is a bug in BibDesk. It works fine for me. >>>>> >>>>> That was the problem - status bar was hidden. As soon as I turned >>>>> that on, it worked. >>>>> Looks like an interface-bug, doesn't it? >>>>> >>>>> Niels >>>>> >>>>>> On 20/Apr/2010, at 07:51 , Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:48:55 +0200, Christiaan Hofman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2010, at 14:37, Niels Kobschätzki wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I want to add a shortcut for Publication -> Add Field… but >>>>>>>>> whatever >>>>>>>>> I enter in the Keyboard-Pref Pane doesn't work. I tried "Add >>>>>>>>> Field", >>>>>>>>> "Add Field…" and "Add Field..." -- what do I have to use? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Niels >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Add Field…", wfm. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Doesn't work for me :( >>>>>>> I have the publication-window open and had a look onto the menu >>>>>>> when I >>>>>>> was in a text-field and outside of a text-field. The shortcut just >>>>>>> doesn't appear in the menu. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried it now with another menu-entry with a "…" (New Public >>>>>>> ation >>>>>>> from File…) at the end and there it doesn't work neither. It >>>>>>> seems >>>>>>> that this is the problem because it works with menu-entries that >>>>>>> do not >>>>>>> have "…" at the end. I tried the same in another application w >>>>>>> ith such >>>>>>> a menu-entry (with "…" at the end) and there it works w/out any >>>>>>> problems. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And just to be clear: I tried "…" and "..." (but afaik the fir >>>>>>> st one >>>>>>> is the one that should work; and I c&p the one from Christiaan) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am using Bibdesk 1.5.1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Niels >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>>>>>> Try the new software tools for yourself. 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