Ok, great Christiaan. I guess that would deserve fixing in the next nightly.
I suggest 3 changes to make everything consistent: - "View -> Group Field -> No Group Field" - "View -> Group Field -> Add Group Field..." - "View -> Group Field -> Remove Group Field..." Regards, Andreas ETH Zurich Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology CHN E 21.1 Universitaetstrasse 16 8092 Zurich SWITZERLAND [email protected] www.sysecol.ethz.ch +41 44 633-6090 phone +41 44 633-1136 fax +41 79 221-4657 mobile Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it! ________________________________________________________________________ On 20/Apr/2010, at 12:08 , Christiaan Hofman wrote: > OK, I found the problem. There's another item with the same name in the View > > Group Field submenu that's stealing the shortcut. That's one of the > problems with identifying items by title rather than action. > > Christiaan > > On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:52, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > >> The menu item is active when a detail window for a non-external item is key. >> But that's irrelevant, because system defined shortcuts should also be >> assigned when the menu item is not active, at least that's what I see for >> other items, and also in this particular case when I open a window for an >> external publication. >> >> Why this one behaves so strange I don't know. The relation between the >> status bar seems coincidental, perhaps something to do with priorities >> because that menu item also occurs in the popup there). It is name-specific, >> as I get the problem with Add Field… and Remove Field…, but not with other >> items like Change Field Name…. I'm pretty much convinced it's a bug >> somewhere in the system, as there's nothing special in our code for these >> items. My guess is that these items somehow conflict with some default items >> somewhere in the system and it gets confused. >> >> Christiaan >> >> On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:08, Fischlin Andreas wrote: >> >>> Indeed a GUI bug. I can repeat this behavior on my system too and agree >>> that either the command should either be greyed out, because inactive or >>> fully active including any keyboard shortcut. The question would then only >>> be what are the conditions to trigger active status, edit window open AND >>> status bar or is an open edit window really already sufficient to make the >>> command active. In my view the status bar should not matter for the menu >>> command, since the + at the lower left corner is in my understanding merely >>> an alternative to the menu command. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Andreas >>> >>> >>> ETH Zurich >>> Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin >>> Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology >>> CHN E 21.1 >>> Universitaetstrasse 16 >>> 8092 Zurich >>> SWITZERLAND >>> >>> [email protected] >>> www.sysecol.ethz.ch >>> >>> +41 44 633-6090 phone >>> +41 44 633-1136 fax >>> +41 79 221-4657 mobile >>> >>> Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it! >>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> On 20/Apr/2010, at 09:44 , Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: >>> >>>> In this case it is not greyed out and the menu item is usable, only >>>> the shortcut doesn't show up when the status bar is hidden. >>>> >>>> Niels >>>> >>>> On 20.04.2010, at 09:40, "Fischlin Andreas" <[email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Admitted, it is confusing that shortcuts don't show up while the >>>>> menu command is clearly visible, albeit greyed out (inactive). >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure this to be a bug, but others knowing Objective C and >>>>> Apple's frameworks and how BibDesk makes use of it better than me >>>>> should judge on this. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Andreas >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ETH Zurich >>>>> Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin >>>>> Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology >>>>> CHN E 21.1 >>>>> Universitaetstrasse 16 >>>>> 8092 Zurich >>>>> SWITZERLAND >>>>> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> www.sysecol.ethz.ch >>>>> >>>>> +41 44 633-6090 phone >>>>> +41 44 633-1136 fax >>>>> +41 79 221-4657 mobile >>>>> >>>>> Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it! >>>>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 20/Apr/2010, at 09:09 , Niels Kobschätzki wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> >>>>>> On 20 Apr 2010, at 08:18, Fischlin Andreas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> <snip> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you see the status bar at the bottom of the edit window of the >>>>>>> publication with which you are testing this? Unless you have the >>>>>>> status bar active, the shortcut does indeed not show up. Use menu >>>>>>> command "View -> Show Status Bar" and "View -> Hide Status Bar", >>>>>>> respectively, to control the visibility of the status bar at the >>>>>>> bottom of edit windows. Unless you checked all these things out I >>>>>>> doubt there is a bug in BibDesk. It works fine for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> That was the problem - status bar was hidden. As soon as I turned >>>>>> that on, it worked. >>>>>> Looks like an interface-bug, doesn't it? >>>>>> >>>>>> Niels >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20/Apr/2010, at 07:51 , Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:48:55 +0200, Christiaan Hofman wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2010, at 14:37, Niels Kobschätzki wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I want to add a shortcut for Publication -> Add Field… but >>>>>>>>>> whatever >>>>>>>>>> I enter in the Keyboard-Pref Pane doesn't work. I tried "Add >>>>>>>>>> Field", >>>>>>>>>> "Add Field…" and "Add Field..." -- what do I have to use? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Niels >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Add Field…", wfm. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Doesn't work for me :( >>>>>>>> I have the publication-window open and had a look onto the menu >>>>>>>> when I >>>>>>>> was in a text-field and outside of a text-field. The shortcut just >>>>>>>> doesn't appear in the menu. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I tried it now with another menu-entry with a "…" (New Public >>>>>>>> ation >>>>>>>> from File…) at the end and there it doesn't work neither. It >>>>>>>> seems >>>>>>>> that this is the problem because it works with menu-entries that >>>>>>>> do not >>>>>>>> have "…" at the end. I tried the same in another application w >>>>>>>> ith such >>>>>>>> a menu-entry (with "…" at the end) and there it works w/out any >>>>>>>> problems. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And just to be clear: I tried "…" and "..." (but afaik the fir >>>>>>>> st one >>>>>>>> is the one that should work; and I c&p the one from Christiaan) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am using Bibdesk 1.5.1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Niels >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>>>>>>> Try the new software tools for yourself. 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