Why not throwing an extra alert in such a situation extending the preview window? BibDesk's alert would tell that TeX encountered errors and then perhaps give a hint where to view the log. The extra information would easy to dismiss for those who have anyway a good idea what is going on. The users who are scratching their head are happy to be well informed.
Regards, Andreas ETH Zurich Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology CHN E 21.1 Universitaetstrasse 16 8092 Zurich SWITZERLAND [email protected] www.sysecol.ethz.ch +41 44 633-6090 phone +41 44 633-1136 fax +41 79 221-4657 mobile Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it! ________________________________________________________________________ On 07/May/2010, at 12:03 , Christiaan Hofman wrote: > > On May 7, 2010, at 5:30, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > >> On May 6, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: >> >>> On May 6, 2010, at 23:05, Themis Matsoukas wrote: >>> >>>> On May 6, 2010, at 4:32 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: >>>> >>>>> Including a naked "&" in a field is indeed an error for TeX. The Log in >>>>> the preview will also tell you this. >>>> >>>> I guess you did not understand that the & was a test to reproduce the >>>> error message. >>>> >>>>> If you don't understand that this is wrong in TeX you probably should not >>>>> even be using the TeX preview. >>>> >>>> Thank you for the kind suggestion. >>>> >>>> Themis >>> >>> Than what's your point? >> >> I believe the secondary point is that your comment seems needlessly snide. >> For the record, Themis has been using BibDesk for a long time; he is one of >> the few who actually donated to the project [1], and has also been >> instrumental in reproducing some memorable bugs (e.g., [2] & [3] come to >> mind). > > My apologies for that, I had a bad day yesterday. > >> >> The original point he demonstrated is that there's no way to debug failures >> of the TeX preview in the main window, unless you're aware of the preview >> panel. > > But in the previous messages it was explained where the log can be found and > can't be found. > >> It looks like this commit removed display of the log/debug info in the PDF >> view when no PDF was produced: >> >> http://bibdesk.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bibdesk/trunk/bibdesk/BDSKPreviewer.m?r1=9360&r2=9447 >> >> Maybe reverting that would help people figure out that TeX itself failed, if >> they're using that preview in the main window. >> > > I really don't like to get that log in the main preview window, especially > there. That change was also done for a reason, even though I don't remember > all the details. Rather remove the in-window preview. But then people will > keep complaining again. > >> >> [1] https://sourceforge.net/project/project_donations.php?group_id=61487 >> [2] >> http://bibdesk.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bibdesk/trunk/bibdesk/BDSKConverter.m?r1=359&r2=383 >> [3] >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1097306&group_id=61487&atid=497423 >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Bibdesk-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
