An alert is very annoying. However I've added the sentence "see the logs in the TeX preview window" to the error message.
Christiaan On May 7, 2010, at 20:21, Fischlin Andreas wrote: > Why not throwing an extra alert in such a situation extending the preview > window? BibDesk's alert would tell that TeX encountered errors and then > perhaps give a hint where to view the log. The extra information would easy > to dismiss for those who have anyway a good idea what is going on. The users > who are scratching their head are happy to be well informed. > > Regards, > Andreas > > > ETH Zurich > Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin > Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology > CHN E 21.1 > Universitaetstrasse 16 > 8092 Zurich > SWITZERLAND > > [email protected] > www.sysecol.ethz.ch > > +41 44 633-6090 phone > +41 44 633-1136 fax > +41 79 221-4657 mobile > > Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it! > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > On 07/May/2010, at 12:03 , Christiaan Hofman wrote: > >> >> On May 7, 2010, at 5:30, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: >> >>> On May 6, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: >>> >>>> On May 6, 2010, at 23:05, Themis Matsoukas wrote: >>>> >>>>> On May 6, 2010, at 4:32 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Including a naked "&" in a field is indeed an error for TeX. The Log in >>>>>> the preview will also tell you this. >>>>> >>>>> I guess you did not understand that the & was a test to reproduce the >>>>> error message. >>>>> >>>>>> If you don't understand that this is wrong in TeX you probably should >>>>>> not even be using the TeX preview. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for the kind suggestion. >>>>> >>>>> Themis >>>> >>>> Than what's your point? >>> >>> I believe the secondary point is that your comment seems needlessly snide. >>> For the record, Themis has been using BibDesk for a long time; he is one of >>> the few who actually donated to the project [1], and has also been >>> instrumental in reproducing some memorable bugs (e.g., [2] & [3] come to >>> mind). >> >> My apologies for that, I had a bad day yesterday. >> >>> >>> The original point he demonstrated is that there's no way to debug failures >>> of the TeX preview in the main window, unless you're aware of the preview >>> panel. >> >> But in the previous messages it was explained where the log can be found and >> can't be found. >> >>> It looks like this commit removed display of the log/debug info in the PDF >>> view when no PDF was produced: >>> >>> http://bibdesk.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bibdesk/trunk/bibdesk/BDSKPreviewer.m?r1=9360&r2=9447 >>> >>> Maybe reverting that would help people figure out that TeX itself failed, >>> if they're using that preview in the main window. >>> >> >> I really don't like to get that log in the main preview window, especially >> there. That change was also done for a reason, even though I don't remember >> all the details. Rather remove the in-window preview. But then people will >> keep complaining again. >> >>> >>> [1] https://sourceforge.net/project/project_donations.php?group_id=61487 >>> [2] >>> http://bibdesk.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bibdesk/trunk/bibdesk/BDSKConverter.m?r1=359&r2=383 >>> [3] >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1097306&group_id=61487&atid=497423 >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bibdesk-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Bibdesk-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
