That's what I meant. Extra information "alerting" the user. Regards, Andreas
ETH Zurich Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology CHN E 21.1 Universitaetstrasse 16 8092 Zurich SWITZERLAND [email protected] www.sysecol.ethz.ch +41 44 633-6090 phone +41 44 633-1136 fax +41 79 221-4657 mobile Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it! ________________________________________________________________________ On 07/May/2010, at 22:07 , Christiaan Hofman wrote: > An alert is very annoying. However I've added the sentence "see the logs in > the TeX preview window" to the error message. > > Christiaan > > On May 7, 2010, at 20:21, Fischlin Andreas wrote: > >> Why not throwing an extra alert in such a situation extending the preview >> window? BibDesk's alert would tell that TeX encountered errors and then >> perhaps give a hint where to view the log. The extra information would easy >> to dismiss for those who have anyway a good idea what is going on. The users >> who are scratching their head are happy to be well informed. >> >> Regards, >> Andreas >> >> >> ETH Zurich >> Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin >> Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology >> CHN E 21.1 >> Universitaetstrasse 16 >> 8092 Zurich >> SWITZERLAND >> >> [email protected] >> www.sysecol.ethz.ch >> >> +41 44 633-6090 phone >> +41 44 633-1136 fax >> +41 79 221-4657 mobile >> >> Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it! >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> On 07/May/2010, at 12:03 , Christiaan Hofman wrote: >> >>> >>> On May 7, 2010, at 5:30, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: >>> >>>> On May 6, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: >>>> >>>>> On May 6, 2010, at 23:05, Themis Matsoukas wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On May 6, 2010, at 4:32 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Including a naked "&" in a field is indeed an error for TeX. The Log in >>>>>>> the preview will also tell you this. >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess you did not understand that the & was a test to reproduce the >>>>>> error message. >>>>>> >>>>>>> If you don't understand that this is wrong in TeX you probably should >>>>>>> not even be using the TeX preview. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for the kind suggestion. >>>>>> >>>>>> Themis >>>>> >>>>> Than what's your point? >>>> >>>> I believe the secondary point is that your comment seems needlessly snide. >>>> For the record, Themis has been using BibDesk for a long time; he is one >>>> of the few who actually donated to the project [1], and has also been >>>> instrumental in reproducing some memorable bugs (e.g., [2] & [3] come to >>>> mind). >>> >>> My apologies for that, I had a bad day yesterday. >>> >>>> >>>> The original point he demonstrated is that there's no way to debug >>>> failures of the TeX preview in the main window, unless you're aware of the >>>> preview panel. >>> >>> But in the previous messages it was explained where the log can be found >>> and can't be found. >>> >>>> It looks like this commit removed display of the log/debug info in the PDF >>>> view when no PDF was produced: >>>> >>>> http://bibdesk.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bibdesk/trunk/bibdesk/BDSKPreviewer.m?r1=9360&r2=9447 >>>> >>>> Maybe reverting that would help people figure out that TeX itself failed, >>>> if they're using that preview in the main window. >>>> >>> >>> I really don't like to get that log in the main preview window, especially >>> there. That change was also done for a reason, even though I don't remember >>> all the details. Rather remove the in-window preview. But then people will >>> keep complaining again. >>> >>>> >>>> [1] https://sourceforge.net/project/project_donations.php?group_id=61487 >>>> [2] >>>> http://bibdesk.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bibdesk/trunk/bibdesk/BDSKConverter.m?r1=359&r2=383 >>>> [3] >>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1097306&group_id=61487&atid=497423 >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bibdesk-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bibdesk-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Bibdesk-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
