Just returned from a European tour where we had one S&S coupled bike; a
couple of Bike Fridays & one Dahon, plus the usual collection of touring,
MTB, etc.  Good cross section of the cycle touring world.

It took everyone at least 1-2 hours to put their bikes together & get
everything functioning properly.  There are no "quickies".  The Bike Friday
people were probably pedaling the soonest but seemed to have lots of little
tweeks to do to brakes & gearing.  The Dahon was the most problematic but
the guy had only had it a month & bought it used.  

The guy with the S&S bike spent little time adjusting once he was assembled.
He had to leave the tour abruptly & I wound up breaking his bike down &
packing it, using only some photos he kept in the case.  Since I had lots of
time & had never done this, I took much longer than it should have, probably
on the order of 3 hours.  The only real glitch was getting the front wheel
to cooperate with the case spacers, & I solved that by removing the tire so
give the wheel some wriggle room.  

Other than the frame couplers, the S&S system does not require much more
dis-assembly than my Atlantis does for air travel.  No crank removal on
either.  I believe the S&S was around a 56, with 700 wheels.  My Atlantis is
a 58 with 700s.  The trick to the coupler bike is packing it into the case -
it only goes in one way, hence the photos my companion kept in the case.  

I managed to dodge any over-size charges on this trip with my Atlantis but
in the future that will probably not be possible.  For travel, the value of
getting your bike inside the 62" and 50 lb limits is substantial, like $300
per flight with United.  The coupled bike was a titanium racing bike & with
the case was in the mid 40 lb range.  The case was pretty HD though.

The Travel Check sounds interesting, gotta look that up.  I'm also thinking
of converting my Atlantis to S&S, especially based on this experience.  

doug

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 3:18 PM
To: Bicycle Lifestyle
Subject: {BL} Re: Surly Travel Check Frame


Please do not confuse an S&S coupled bike with a "folding bike" like a
Brompton - Bromptons, Birdies, and their ilk are highly compromised
commuter bikes that can be folded and unfolded in less than a minute.
That's the sort of bike where the wheels stay on. It takes me nearly
an hour to assemble my S&S coupled bikes! Packing it up is not so
quick either - I always clean the bike pretty thoroughly (why pack a
dirty bike), and wrap all the tubes and exposed bits in protective
covers. I remove the pedals AND cranks, chain, and lots of other bits
like bottle cages, etc. It's a job, but you wind up with a great bike
that fits in a suitcase. And by the way, cable couplers are easy to
install, easy to use, and make the job much less cumbersome - I can't
imagine speccing a packable bike without them.

Fred Roses
(S&S-coupled Roark titanium road-sport, S&S-coupled Landshark stage-
racer, & S&S-coupled Bilenky tourer)





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