A bit of a thread hijack, but....

Actually, although you can finish crossing the intersection when the DON'T
WALK is flashing, pedestrians - and bicyclists using the crosswalk - are
legally not supposed to start crossing when the light starts flashing. And
pedestrians aren't supposed to cross at all unless they get a WALK light, if
one is present.

One advantage to being a bicyclist, instead of a pedestrian, is that we can
legally cross the intersection using the green cycle, and not need to wait
until we get a WALK.

Of course, in the case of the John Nolen/Blair/Wilson/Willy/Path
intersection, bicyclists trying to follow the Cap City Trail from the East
Isthmus Path to the Lake Monona Path are on the wrong side of the street to
act like other vehicle operators, so the WALK cycle is much more important.
And yes, most of us find waiting for all the WALK lights a ridiculous way to
cross the intersection.

And since we are on the subject of why WALK lights don't automatically come
on at all intersections, it's because the WALK light causes the red for the
cross traffic to be longer. That is, it lengthens the crossing time for
everyone - pedestrians, bicyclists, car drivers - in one direction and
delays the green for the cross traffic. That is because pedestrians need
more time to cross than people driving cars. The traffic engineers don't
want to mess up the timing on the streets by giving this long green all the
time, so it only comes on when the button is pushed.

Whether that is a good reason to make pedestrians push a button to cross is
another question, but that is the reason the WALK light doesn't always come
on.

Robbie Webber

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Troy Thiel <[email protected]> wrote:

> I know "Pedestrians have the right of way when in crosswalks...even with a
> don't walk sign"...legally...
>
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