Do you really have time to do all that greeting and then notify them that you intend to pass? It seems to me a greeting should always be to someone¹s face. As either a pedestrian or a biker being approached from the back, I¹d prefer just ³On your left² as opposed to any verbiage beyond the main message.
Actually, despite all the ³rules,² and suggestions, I prefer no warning at all. To me, the verbal warning or the bell is kind of like the motorist who blares his horn at me simply because I¹m riding on the street no matter how far to the right I am feels rude and unnecessary. I¹m far more likely to do something unexpected if someone makes a big racket than if the biker or motorist simply passed me in silence. Of course I prefer that the passer gives enough clearance as he passes. Mary On 11/23/12 8:52 AM, "Tom Held" <[email protected]> wrote: > Great discussion and I thought Robbie had an excellent approach. I would add > this: I try to greet people first - good morning, good afternoon, Hi, how are > you - to let them know I'm behind them. Then announce my intention to pass. It > gives people time to react. > > Tom > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Mark Shahan <[email protected]> wrote: >> Bob, >> >> The problem is most people don't know that when they walk against traffic on >> the left, they are suppose to move off the path when on-coming traffic >> approaches. The result is I have had some close calls when people, >> especially dog walkers, won't move to the side of the path. This most often >> happens on my way to work when I turn left from the ramp onto the Pheasant >> Branch Creek path to go under Parmenter St. in Middleton. As I turn onto the >> path under Parmenter St., sight distances are limited and reaction time is >> further limited by the fact that people are moving toward you instead of away >> from you. Despite having to slow way down due to a sharp turn onto the path, >> I have nearly hit a couple of dog walkers who would not step off of the path. >> >> At night on the SW Path, it can be difficult to tell if someone is coming >> towards you or moving away from you. The result is again decreased reaction >> time once you determine they are moving towards you. >> >> And as John Rider has said on this list, what do you do when 2 bicyclists >> moving in opposite directions each meet a pedestrian walking against >> traffic? This situations happens on the SW Path resulting in a traffic jam >> as everybody comes to a complete stop. >> >> Mark >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:23 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> I apply the same rule as I use on any other >>> multi- >>> user intermodal paved transportation facility (i.e., STREET, ROAD, HIGHWAY) >>> that >>> lacks separate sidewalks. I walk on the left, facing the direction of >>> traffic >>> for safety. I know we go over this from time to time, and someone >>> inevitably >>> trots out the party line doctrine that you follow OPPOSITE pedestrian rules >>> when >>> the wheeled shared user is a bicycle rather than a motor vehicle. I'm not >>> convinced by the nonsensical party line doctrine anyway, but the real test >>> (and, >>> indeed, the only one that matters) is that I feel much safer on foot if I >>> can >>> see what's approaching and can move to the side as needed. And when a >>> bicyclist, I can also proceed with more certainty knowing that the other >>> person >>> sees me as well and can adjust my speed and shift my position as needed >>> just as >>> when I am approaching from behind a pedestrian. >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> mail2web - Check your email from the web at >>> http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bikies mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >> >>
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