same as Tom here..."Good Morning" is the same syllable count as "on your left"
and much more pleasant...why not be? Its not like we're racing in the tour.
Troy Thiel
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From: Tom Held <[email protected]>
To: Mark Shahan <[email protected]>
Cc: bikies <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Bikies] Courtesy or Nuisance?
Great discussion and I thought Robbie had an excellent approach. I would add
this: I try to greet people first - good morning, good afternoon, Hi, how are
you - to let them know I'm behind them. Then announce my intention to pass. It
gives people time to react.
Tom
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Mark Shahan <[email protected]> wrote:
Bob,
>
>The problem is most people don't know that when they walk against traffic on
>the left, they are suppose to move off the path when on-coming traffic
>approaches. The result is I have had some close calls when people,
>especially dog walkers, won't move to the side of the path. This most often
>happens on my way to work when I turn left from the ramp onto the Pheasant
>Branch Creek path to go under Parmenter St. in Middleton. As I turn onto the
>path under Parmenter St., sight distances are limited and reaction time is
>further limited by the fact that people are moving toward you instead of away
>from you. Despite having to slow way down due to a sharp turn onto the path,
>I have nearly hit a couple of dog walkers who would not step off of the path.
>
>At night on the SW Path, it can be difficult to tell if someone is coming
>towards you or moving away from you. The result is again decreased reaction
>time once you determine they are moving towards you.
>
>And as John Rider has said on this list, what do you do when 2 bicyclists
>moving in opposite directions each meet a pedestrian walking against traffic?
>This situations happens on the SW Path resulting in a traffic jam as everybody
>comes to a complete stop.
>
>Mark
>
>
>
>On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:23 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
> I apply the same rule as I use on any other
>>multi-
>>user intermodal paved transportation facility (i.e., STREET, ROAD, HIGHWAY)
>>that
>>lacks separate sidewalks. I walk on the left, facing the direction of
>>traffic
>>for safety. I know we go over this from time to time, and someone
>>inevitably
>>trots out the party line doctrine that you follow OPPOSITE pedestrian rules
>>when
>>the wheeled shared user is a bicycle rather than a motor vehicle. I'm not
>>convinced by the nonsensical party line doctrine anyway, but the real test
>>(and,
>>indeed, the only one that matters) is that I feel much safer on foot if I
>>can
>>see what's approaching and can move to the side as needed. And when a
>>bicyclist, I can also proceed with more certainty knowing that the other
>>person
>>sees me as well and can adjust my speed and shift my position as needed
>>just as
>>when I am approaching from behind a pedestrian.
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