Fair enough.  Obviously I was still 'thinking' about in the oooold days.

Sorry

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] remote access


> Erm, no you don't have to have SAPI4/SAPI5 installed unless you don't
> wish to use the integrated Espeak.
>
> At 10:05 19/12/2007, you wrote:
>>That's partly why I'm looking into trying out NVDA since it doesn't really
>>have to be 'installed' as such - can literally just be run from wherever 
>>as
>>long as the machine has in fact got MS Sapi 4/5 on it, but that's on 
>>things
>>like Win XP machines by default.
>>
>>Stay well
>>
>>Jacob Kruger
>>Blind Biker
>>Skype: BlindZA
>>'...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "aiden gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[email protected]>
>>Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:43 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] remote access
>>
>>
>> > The computer i need to connect to doesn't have a screen reader 
>> > installed.
>> >
>> > Aiden
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Victor Gouveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: <[email protected]>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:40 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] remote access
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi Sarah,
>> >>
>> >> I have to disagree with you on some things.
>> >>
>> >> First and foremost, since all he wants to do is provide temporary 
>> >> speech
>> >> on
>> >> his system before he connects remotely to his computer at home already
>> >> running a screen reader, then I think it will do in a pinch.
>> >>
>> >> Secondly, I think it's a matter of perspective in terms of what 
>> >> Narrator
>> >> can
>> >> and cannot do.
>> >>
>> >> Obviously, being users of Jaws and Window Eyes, we tend to think of 
>> >> those
>> >> program's keystrokes before we think of anyone else's keystrokes.
>> >>
>> >> I can't count the number of times I've tried to read something with
>> >> Narrator, only to find I've pressed the say all command, or the 
>> >> insert+B
>> >> to
>> >> read the entire window.  Smile.
>> >>
>> >> I think if we knew what the proper keystrokes were, I think we would 
>> >> have
>> >> a
>> >> speech package to rival, if not beat the major competitors of Jaws and
>> >> Window Eyes.  Granted, this may be wishful thinking on my part, but 
>> >> hey,
>> >> I
>> >> am allowed to dream, aren't I?
>> >>
>> >> In any case, the remote access offered by Windows is very accessible 
>> >> for
>> >> what he wants to do.
>> >>
>> >> I should also note that I actually tried this feature, and, once
>> >> connected,
>> >> I was able to start Jaws on my brother's system remotely, and was able 
>> >> to
>> >> hear the speech come through on my computer from home.
>> >>
>> >> Victor
>> >>
>> >>
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