Hi, well I do know that despite Hannah's laptop being 3 years old this 
September, all drivers work fine and no driver updates were available when I 
did a Windows Update after installing SP3. There were 2 additional 
high-priority updates, but that was all.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "phani srikanth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Possible XP SP3 Problem


> hi are all the drivers compatible with XP SP3?
> because so many of chipset drivers does not have forward
> compatibility. i have installed XP SP3 on my friends dell laptop which
> was an older model. i fased the same problem of getting restarted.
> then i have downloaded the new drivers from intell sight and now it is
> working fine well.
> so i advise to do the same once so that it may be fixed.
>
> On 5/19/08, Chris Hallsworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>> Hi, this is what I'm not sure about. It seems to be working, however the
>> grill feels quite warm, if not hot. My old Toshiba laptop used to feel 
>> like
>> that though, so I'm not sure if it's just Toshiba laptops or what. My HP
>> laptop gets warm, but not as warm as either Hannah's Toshiba or my old
>> Toshiba. P.S. Hannah's my other half, and she's the one having the 
>> problem.
>>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike & Barbara" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Possible XP SP3 Problem
>>
>>
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>> I am not very sharp on these issues but are the cooling fans working
>>> properly?
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Chris Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 3:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Possible XP SP3 Problem
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi David, that's not the problem here. Her PC just suddenly shuts off,
>>> without even doing a shutdown; it just powers off. If she tries to press
>>> the
>>> power button it refuses to power on, until after a few minutes. Now this
>>> is
>>> where I'm suspicious, as heat must be building up inside the laptop, 
>>> and,
>>> as
>>> a result, it's getting too warm to function further, so Windows must
>>> trigger
>>> something to "trip the circuitry" and as a result switch off the laptop.
>>> This happens both on AC power and battery, so it can't be a charger 
>>> issue
>>> as
>>> she only got a new one weeks ago anyway. If she, for example, chats to 
>>> me
>>> on
>>> Windows Live Messenger, reads e-mails, browse the web, etc, then her PC
>>> appears to run fine. This is why I don't believe it's a Windows XP SP3
>>> issue, and it's again an overheating issue. Any thoughts on this guys?
>>> Thanks for the help so far, greatly appreciated.
>>>
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "David Griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 11:25 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Possible XP SP3 Problem
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hope you fix it Chris.
>>>>
>>>> It does sound hauntingly familiar to the crashes I got on my old 
>>>> upgrade
>>>> though.  Anything disk intensive would cause the machine to fall over. 
>>>> I
>>>> could never complete  a virus scan. The  misleading error message
>>>> feedback
>>>> was that it was probably a video drive conflict . I therefore upgraded 
>>>> my
>>>> video card, updated my video driver  , doubled my system ram and 
>>>> changed
>>>> a
>>>> hard disc.  all to no avail. It was only when I went back to sp1 that 
>>>> the
>>>> problem disappeared on that machine.
>>>> For some reason the hardware just did not like sp2. Computers can drive
>>>> you
>>>> nuts.
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>> Hallsworth
>>>> Sent: Sunday, 18 May 2008 17:08
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Possible XP SP3 Problem
>>>>
>>>> Hi, I'm fully aware that upgrading isn't a risk free process, but her
>>>> copy
>>>> of XP SP3 is fine; it's when she does disk intensive tasks, like virus
>>>> scans, that her pc starts to have problems. Actually, I should point 
>>>> out
>>>> that the unit did feel quite warm, particularly at the place where the
>>>> fans
>>>> are and at the bottom of the unit, where the battery goes etc.
>>>>
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>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "David Griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 3:57 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Possible XP SP3 Problem
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> People should be aware that Upgrading is not a risk free process.
>>>>>
>>>>> I learnt my lesson a couple of years ago. I had a PC which worked
>>>>> absolutely fine on XP sp1 but as soon as I installed sp2 it started
>>>>> crashing. I did a complete restore and it worked fine on sp 1 again .
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately I bought a web cam for my son and the installation
>>>>> insisted on sp2, if  I had known the hassle it would cause I would
>>>>> have tossed it straight in the bin and done without it. Inevitably the
>>>>> PC started crashing as  soon as I upgraded to sp2 again.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am fully aware that loads of PCs will be stable  with sp 2. Indeed
>>>>> my new PC is.  but as pcs are varied and complex things there is
>>>>> always a risk of engendering instability when you upgrade . I spoke to
>>>>> a computer technician recently and he freely admitted he made a good
>>>>> living out of trying to untangle these kinds of messes caused by
>>>>> people trying various upgrades.
>>>>> My
>>>>> new PC has been happily stable on XP sp 2  for a year now. I am not
>>>>> about to risk returning to all the hassles and problems of the past in
>>>>> search of dubious benefits of upgrade.  I have turned Windows Update
>>>>> off and I am going nowhere near sp3.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know there are supposed to be security issues but rely on security
>>>>> software to provide protection.
>>>>>
>>>>> My own advice now is if it is not broken then do not fix it. In other
>>>>> words if you want a computer without hassle then put the minimum you
>>>>> need on it.
>>>>> If you do not mind the hassle and I know that  some enjoy the
>>>>> challenge of fixing configuration problems then by all means upgrade
>>>>> away.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> David Griffith
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>>> Hallsworth
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 18 May 2008 13:32
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Possible XP SP3 Problem
>>>>>
>>>>> My goodness, I thought so. Problem is she can't get the laptop sorted
>>>>> until she goes home in July, so it's a good job her computer shuts off
>>>>> in the first place! Thanks for the help, greatly appreciated.
>>>>>
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>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "John Melia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 1:17 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Possible XP SP3 Problem
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have also down loaded xp service pack 3 and had no problems I think
>>>>>>it is  inside the computer a over heating issue
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Chris Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 4:04 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] Possible XP SP3 Problem
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all, please help. I downloaded and instaled XP Home SP3 onto my
>>>>>>> girlfriend's laptop yesterday after being asked to by Windows 
>>>>>>> Update.
>>>>>>> Everything went well and she's using it fine. However, we've ran
>>>>>>> into a snag. We've been trying to run manual virus scans with Avast,
>>>>>>> and everything goes well till a few minutes afterwards, when the
>>>>>>> computer suddenly shuts off and the laptop won't come on at all
>>>>>>> until after a few minutes. By "won't come on" I mean the power
>>>>>>> button does nothing. She's had similar problems in the past, but we
>>>>>>> thought a new charger would help, but it's even happening when
>>>>>>> running on battery. Is this a known issue with XP SP3, or is it
>>>>>>> something sinister, like an overheating processor? It seems that the
>>>>>>> laptop runs fine until she does disk intensive activities, from my
>>>>>>> observations anyway. Thanks in advance fo
>>>>>>>
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