Hi Don Marang Can you post your site to check out the type of jaws script which you have there? Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Marang" <donald.mar...@gmail.com> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
| Being a consumer sucks! I am still used to site licenses of most software, | and if there was a seat count, I had no problem getting a seat. | Fortunately, most of my use of virtualization is with Vinux and will | probably stay that way due to these issues. It sure would be nice to be | able to run older versions of Windows and JAWS to test JAWS scripts. Since | I provide scripts free, it is not possible to invest in worthwhile things | such as MCP. | | Don Marang | | -------------------------------------------------- | From: "Frank Ventura" <frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com> | Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 8:24 AM | To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> | Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine | | > Absolutely, the best thing I ever did was becoming a MCP/MCSA and | > getting an action pack subscription so all of my internal testing | > machines can make use of that licensing. | > Frank | > | > -----Original Message----- | > From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com | > [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jacob | > Kruger | > Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 7:28 AM | > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com | > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine | > | > I know, and, fortunately, my current employer is a MCSP as far as I | > know, so | > they can provide me with multiple licences if I need it. | > | > Stay well | > | > Jacob Kruger | > Blind Biker | > Skype: BlindZA | > '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Frank Ventura" <frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com> | > To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> | > Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:21 PM | > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine | > | > | >> Having done quite a bit of work n virtualized environments the rule of | >> thumb that works is that when t comes to Windows make sure you have a | >> license for every incident that you are running. When it comes to JFW | > if | >> you need to have multiple JFW incidents running at the same time | >> consider buying the network version of JFW, it makes life much, much | >> easier. | >> Frank | >> | >> -----Original Message----- | >> From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com | >> [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jacob | >> Kruger | >> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 7:03 PM | >> To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com | >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine | >> | >> Makes sense. | >> | >> I think I would generally just run a virtual version of jaws in 40 | >> minute | >> mode etc., but even without actually allowing an installation of | > windows | >> to | >> carry out it's online activation, you'd still need to enter a | >> registration | >> key during installation, and that would possibly toggle something to | > do | >> with | >> your licence at some stage. | >> | >> Honestly though, for now, the only virtual machine have tried out much | >> is | >> vinux, and there's not such an issue there, but I did want to try out | >> things | >> like windows 95 etc. to try out versions of narrator I have that are | >> meant | >> to work on them, but suppose that also negates this joint licence | > issue | >> as | >> such. | >> | >> Stay well | >> | >> Jacob Kruger | >> Blind Biker | >> Skype: BlindZA | >> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' | >> | >> ----- Original Message ----- | >> From: "Donald Marang" <donald.mar...@gmail.com> | >> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> | >> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 1:42 AM | >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine | >> | >> | >>> Good question! According to my attempts to get answers from | >> Microsoft, | >>> Apple and Freedom Scientific. The answer from Apple is simple. | >> Anyone | >>> attempting to run their Operating System on any hardware that is not | >> from | >>> Apple will be prosecuted! the response from the other two depend on | >> who | >>> you ask, and what day it is. Microsoft clearly requires anyone | >> running | >>> Windows in a Virtual Machine on a Mac or Linux platform must buy a | >>> separate license for that installation. Microsoft used to be clear | >> that a | >>> license was needed for each virtual machine. This did not get much | >> push | >>> back until lately when Microsoft who now wants to sell virtualization | >> to | >>> consumers. I understandMicrosoft's view of licensing Virtual | > Machines | >> on | >>> a computer running the same OS, or even a version previously updated | >> to | >>> the current version has relaxed a bit. However, there are actually | >>> provisions in the Windows 7 license that are very strict and make | >>> ffollowing official Microsoft on screen instructions during | >> installation | >>> illegal! For instance, the way the licence is written, it is not | >> legal to | >>> create a dual oot system that can boot both the 32 bit and 64 bit | >> versions | >>> of Windows 7! However, any technical person at Microsoft will say it | >> is | >>> perfectly legitimate. Currently installing and authorizing JAWS in a | >>> Virtual Machine will use up aa license key! Everyone I talked to at | >>> Freedom Scientific so far think that would be acceptable. I have not | >>> pushed it yet to the point where I needed to talk to a person to add | >> more | >>> keys, so I do not know how they would handle that. I have considered | >> a | >>> dongle version of JAWS, which should automatically authorize as many | >>> Virtual Machines as you like. Since I have not tried this, I have no | >> idea | >>> if this has issues like the host falling back to demo mode if you | >> spend | >>> too much time in the Virtual Machine with the USB dongle attached. | >>> | >>> It sure makes open solutions like Linux and NVDA look great, since | >> these | >>> issues go away! | >>> | >>> Don Marang | >>> | >>> -------------------------------------------------- | >>> From: "Jacob Kruger" <jac...@mailzone.co.za> | >>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 3:30 PM | >>> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> | >>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine | >>> | >>>> Along the lines of that, if I just wanted a clean, test instance of | >> my | >>>> current operating system - does it count as a licence issue if I | >> install | >>>> it on a virtual machine that runs within my normally used instance | > of | >> the | >>>> same licenced installation? | >>>> | >>>> In other words, while I would be making use of 2 copies of the same | >>>> licence, it would however be on the same physical machine. | >>>> | >>>> Suppose it might actually cause validation issues if they were both | >>>> online at the same time as well. | >>>> | >>>> Not too important/relevant as such, but just wondering. | >>>> | >>>> Stay well | >>>> | >>>> Jacob Kruger | >>>> Blind Biker | >>>> Skype: BlindZA | >>>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' | >>>> | >>>> ----- Original Message ----- | >>>> From: "Frank Ventura" <frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com> | >>>> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> | >>>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:05 PM | >>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine | >>>> | >>>> | >>>>>A virtual machine is just that another machine. You will need to buy | >> an | >>>>> unused copy of the retail version of XP (try EBay) and install it | >> into | >>>>> a newly created virtual machine. | >>>>> Frank Ventura | >>>>> | >>>>> | >>>>> -----Original Message----- | >>>>> From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com | >>>>> [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin | >>>>> Andrews | >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:42 PM | >>>>> To: blind-computing | >>>>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine | >>>>> | >>>>> Hi, | >>>>> | >>>>> I was wondering if it would be possible to obtain a Windows XP | >> virtual | >>>>> machine. I already have VMware player installed. I did some | > browsing | >> on | >>>>> the Internet, but it looks like I need to insert my Windows XP cd, | >> which | >>>>> I don't have Windows xp. Isn't the purpose of a vm is so you can | > run | >> it | >>>>> without a cd? | >>>>> | >>>>> If anyone could direct to any links on the WEB where I may be able | >> to | >>>>> download a virtual machine, either Windows XP home or pro, that | >> would be | >>>>> much appreciated. | >>>>> | >>>>> Thank you. | >>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: | >>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ | >>>>> | >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. | >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com | >>>>> Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2696 - Release Date: | >> 02/20/10 | >>>>> 07:34:00 | >>>>> | >>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: | >>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ | >>>>> | >>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus | >>>>> signature database 4883 (20100220) __________ | >>>>> | >>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. | >>>>> | >>>>> http://www.eset.com | >>>>> | >>>>> | >>>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus | >>>> signature database 4883 (20100220) __________ | >>>> | >>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. | >>>> | >>>> http://www.eset.com | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: | >>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ | >>> | >>> | >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: | >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ | >>> | >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus | >>> signature database 4883 (20100220) __________ | >>> | >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. | >>> | >>> http://www.eset.com | >>> | >>> | >>> | >> | >> | >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus | >> signature database 4883 (20100220) __________ | >> | >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. | >> | >> http://www.eset.com | >> | >> | >> | >> | >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: | >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ | >> | >> No virus found in this incoming message. | >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com | >> Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2699 - Release Date: | > 02/20/10 | >> 07:34:00 | >> | >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: | >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ | >> | >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus | >> signature database 4883 (20100220) __________ | >> | >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. | >> | >> http://www.eset.com | >> | >> | >> | > | > | > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus | > signature database 4883 (20100220) __________ | > | > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. | > | > http://www.eset.com | > | > | > | > | > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: | > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ | > | > No virus found in this incoming message. | > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com | > Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2699 - Release Date: 02/20/10 | > 07:34:00 | > | > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: | > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ | | | For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: | http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ | For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
