Having done quite a bit of work n virtualized environments the rule of
thumb that works is that when t comes to Windows make sure you have a
license for every incident that you are running. When it comes to JFW if
you need to have multiple JFW incidents running at the same time
consider buying the network version of JFW, it makes life much, much
easier.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jacob
Kruger
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 7:03 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
Makes sense.
I think I would generally just run a virtual version of jaws in 40
minute
mode etc., but even without actually allowing an installation of windows
to
carry out it's online activation, you'd still need to enter a
registration
key during installation, and that would possibly toggle something to do
with
your licence at some stage.
Honestly though, for now, the only virtual machine have tried out much
is
vinux, and there's not such an issue there, but I did want to try out
things
like windows 95 etc. to try out versions of narrator I have that are
meant
to work on them, but suppose that also negates this joint licence issue
as
such.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald Marang" <donald.mar...@gmail.com>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
Good question! According to my attempts to get answers from
Microsoft,
Apple and Freedom Scientific. The answer from Apple is simple.
Anyone
attempting to run their Operating System on any hardware that is not
from
Apple will be prosecuted! the response from the other two depend on
who
you ask, and what day it is. Microsoft clearly requires anyone
running
Windows in a Virtual Machine on a Mac or Linux platform must buy a
separate license for that installation. Microsoft used to be clear
that a
license was needed for each virtual machine. This did not get much
push
back until lately when Microsoft who now wants to sell virtualization
to
consumers. I understandMicrosoft's view of licensing Virtual Machines
on
a computer running the same OS, or even a version previously updated
to
the current version has relaxed a bit. However, there are actually
provisions in the Windows 7 license that are very strict and make
ffollowing official Microsoft on screen instructions during
installation
illegal! For instance, the way the licence is written, it is not
legal to
create a dual oot system that can boot both the 32 bit and 64 bit
versions
of Windows 7! However, any technical person at Microsoft will say it
is
perfectly legitimate. Currently installing and authorizing JAWS in a
Virtual Machine will use up aa license key! Everyone I talked to at
Freedom Scientific so far think that would be acceptable. I have not
pushed it yet to the point where I needed to talk to a person to add
more
keys, so I do not know how they would handle that. I have considered
a
dongle version of JAWS, which should automatically authorize as many
Virtual Machines as you like. Since I have not tried this, I have no
idea
if this has issues like the host falling back to demo mode if you
spend
too much time in the Virtual Machine with the USB dongle attached.
It sure makes open solutions like Linux and NVDA look great, since
these
issues go away!
Don Marang
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From: "Jacob Kruger" <jac...@mailzone.co.za>
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 3:30 PM
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
Along the lines of that, if I just wanted a clean, test instance of
my
current operating system - does it count as a licence issue if I
install
it on a virtual machine that runs within my normally used instance of
the
same licenced installation?
In other words, while I would be making use of 2 copies of the same
licence, it would however be on the same physical machine.
Suppose it might actually cause validation issues if they were both
online at the same time as well.
Not too important/relevant as such, but just wondering.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Ventura" <frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
A virtual machine is just that another machine. You will need to buy
an
unused copy of the retail version of XP (try EBay) and install it
into
a newly created virtual machine.
Frank Ventura
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Andrews
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:42 PM
To: blind-computing
Subject: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
Hi,
I was wondering if it would be possible to obtain a Windows XP
virtual
machine. I already have VMware player installed. I did some browsing
on
the Internet, but it looks like I need to insert my Windows XP cd,
which
I don't have Windows xp. Isn't the purpose of a vm is so you can run
it
without a cd?
If anyone could direct to any links on the WEB where I may be able
to
download a virtual machine, either Windows XP home or pro, that
would be
much appreciated.
Thank you.
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