Absolutely, the best thing I ever did was becoming a MCP/MCSA and getting an action pack subscription so all of my internal testing machines can make use of that licensing. Frank
-----Original Message----- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 7:28 AM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine I know, and, fortunately, my current employer is a MCSP as far as I know, so they can provide me with multiple licences if I need it. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ventura" <frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine > Having done quite a bit of work n virtualized environments the rule of > thumb that works is that when t comes to Windows make sure you have a > license for every incident that you are running. When it comes to JFW if > you need to have multiple JFW incidents running at the same time > consider buying the network version of JFW, it makes life much, much > easier. > Frank > > -----Original Message----- > From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jacob > Kruger > Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 7:03 PM > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine > > Makes sense. > > I think I would generally just run a virtual version of jaws in 40 > minute > mode etc., but even without actually allowing an installation of windows > to > carry out it's online activation, you'd still need to enter a > registration > key during installation, and that would possibly toggle something to do > with > your licence at some stage. > > Honestly though, for now, the only virtual machine have tried out much > is > vinux, and there's not such an issue there, but I did want to try out > things > like windows 95 etc. to try out versions of narrator I have that are > meant > to work on them, but suppose that also negates this joint licence issue > as > such. > > Stay well > > Jacob Kruger > Blind Biker > Skype: BlindZA > '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donald Marang" <donald.mar...@gmail.com> > To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 1:42 AM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine > > >> Good question! According to my attempts to get answers from > Microsoft, >> Apple and Freedom Scientific. The answer from Apple is simple. > Anyone >> attempting to run their Operating System on any hardware that is not > from >> Apple will be prosecuted! the response from the other two depend on > who >> you ask, and what day it is. Microsoft clearly requires anyone > running >> Windows in a Virtual Machine on a Mac or Linux platform must buy a >> separate license for that installation. Microsoft used to be clear > that a >> license was needed for each virtual machine. This did not get much > push >> back until lately when Microsoft who now wants to sell virtualization > to >> consumers. I understandMicrosoft's view of licensing Virtual Machines > on >> a computer running the same OS, or even a version previously updated > to >> the current version has relaxed a bit. However, there are actually >> provisions in the Windows 7 license that are very strict and make >> ffollowing official Microsoft on screen instructions during > installation >> illegal! For instance, the way the licence is written, it is not > legal to >> create a dual oot system that can boot both the 32 bit and 64 bit > versions >> of Windows 7! However, any technical person at Microsoft will say it > is >> perfectly legitimate. Currently installing and authorizing JAWS in a >> Virtual Machine will use up aa license key! Everyone I talked to at >> Freedom Scientific so far think that would be acceptable. I have not >> pushed it yet to the point where I needed to talk to a person to add > more >> keys, so I do not know how they would handle that. I have considered > a >> dongle version of JAWS, which should automatically authorize as many >> Virtual Machines as you like. Since I have not tried this, I have no > idea >> if this has issues like the host falling back to demo mode if you > spend >> too much time in the Virtual Machine with the USB dongle attached. >> >> It sure makes open solutions like Linux and NVDA look great, since > these >> issues go away! >> >> Don Marang >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Jacob Kruger" <jac...@mailzone.co.za> >> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 3:30 PM >> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine >> >>> Along the lines of that, if I just wanted a clean, test instance of > my >>> current operating system - does it count as a licence issue if I > install >>> it on a virtual machine that runs within my normally used instance of > the >>> same licenced installation? >>> >>> In other words, while I would be making use of 2 copies of the same >>> licence, it would however be on the same physical machine. >>> >>> Suppose it might actually cause validation issues if they were both >>> online at the same time as well. >>> >>> Not too important/relevant as such, but just wondering. >>> >>> Stay well >>> >>> Jacob Kruger >>> Blind Biker >>> Skype: BlindZA >>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Frank Ventura" <frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com> >>> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:05 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine >>> >>> >>>>A virtual machine is just that another machine. You will need to buy > an >>>> unused copy of the retail version of XP (try EBay) and install it > into >>>> a newly created virtual machine. >>>> Frank Ventura >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com >>>> [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin >>>> Andrews >>>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:42 PM >>>> To: blind-computing >>>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I was wondering if it would be possible to obtain a Windows XP > virtual >>>> machine. I already have VMware player installed. I did some browsing > on >>>> the Internet, but it looks like I need to insert my Windows XP cd, > which >>>> I don't have Windows xp. Isn't the purpose of a vm is so you can run > it >>>> without a cd? >>>> >>>> If anyone could direct to any links on the WEB where I may be able > to >>>> download a virtual machine, either Windows XP home or pro, that > would be >>>> much appreciated. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2696 - Release Date: > 02/20/10 >>>> 07:34:00 >>>> >>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>> signature database 4883 (20100220) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>> signature database 4883 (20100220) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 4883 (20100220) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4883 (20100220) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2699 - Release Date: 02/20/10 > 07:34:00 > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4883 (20100220) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4883 (20100220) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ No virus found in this incoming message. 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