Hi Don Marang
Can you post your site to check out the type of jaws script which you have
there?
Thanks!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald Marang" <donald.mar...@gmail.com>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
| Being a consumer sucks! I am still used to site licenses of most
software,
| and if there was a seat count, I had no problem getting a seat.
| Fortunately, most of my use of virtualization is with Vinux and will
| probably stay that way due to these issues. It sure would be nice to be
| able to run older versions of Windows and JAWS to test JAWS scripts.
Since
| I provide scripts free, it is not possible to invest in worthwhile
things
| such as MCP.
|
| Don Marang
|
| --------------------------------------------------
| From: "Frank Ventura" <frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com>
| Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 8:24 AM
| To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
| Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
|
| > Absolutely, the best thing I ever did was becoming a MCP/MCSA and
| > getting an action pack subscription so all of my internal testing
| > machines can make use of that licensing.
| > Frank
| >
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
| > [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jacob
| > Kruger
| > Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 7:28 AM
| > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
| > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
| >
| > I know, and, fortunately, my current employer is a MCSP as far as I
| > know, so
| > they can provide me with multiple licences if I need it.
| >
| > Stay well
| >
| > Jacob Kruger
| > Blind Biker
| > Skype: BlindZA
| > '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
| >
| > ----- Original Message -----
| > From: "Frank Ventura" <frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com>
| > To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
| > Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:21 PM
| > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
| >
| >
| >> Having done quite a bit of work n virtualized environments the rule
of
| >> thumb that works is that when t comes to Windows make sure you have a
| >> license for every incident that you are running. When it comes to JFW
| > if
| >> you need to have multiple JFW incidents running at the same time
| >> consider buying the network version of JFW, it makes life much, much
| >> easier.
| >> Frank
| >>
| >> -----Original Message-----
| >> From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
| >> [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jacob
| >> Kruger
| >> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 7:03 PM
| >> To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
| >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
| >>
| >> Makes sense.
| >>
| >> I think I would generally just run a virtual version of jaws in 40
| >> minute
| >> mode etc., but even without actually allowing an installation of
| > windows
| >> to
| >> carry out it's online activation, you'd still need to enter a
| >> registration
| >> key during installation, and that would possibly toggle something to
| > do
| >> with
| >> your licence at some stage.
| >>
| >> Honestly though, for now, the only virtual machine have tried out
much
| >> is
| >> vinux, and there's not such an issue there, but I did want to try out
| >> things
| >> like windows 95 etc. to try out versions of narrator I have that are
| >> meant
| >> to work on them, but suppose that also negates this joint licence
| > issue
| >> as
| >> such.
| >>
| >> Stay well
| >>
| >> Jacob Kruger
| >> Blind Biker
| >> Skype: BlindZA
| >> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
| >>
| >> ----- Original Message -----
| >> From: "Donald Marang" <donald.mar...@gmail.com>
| >> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
| >> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 1:42 AM
| >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
| >>
| >>
| >>> Good question! According to my attempts to get answers from
| >> Microsoft,
| >>> Apple and Freedom Scientific. The answer from Apple is simple.
| >> Anyone
| >>> attempting to run their Operating System on any hardware that is not
| >> from
| >>> Apple will be prosecuted! the response from the other two depend on
| >> who
| >>> you ask, and what day it is. Microsoft clearly requires anyone
| >> running
| >>> Windows in a Virtual Machine on a Mac or Linux platform must buy a
| >>> separate license for that installation. Microsoft used to be clear
| >> that a
| >>> license was needed for each virtual machine. This did not get much
| >> push
| >>> back until lately when Microsoft who now wants to sell
virtualization
| >> to
| >>> consumers. I understandMicrosoft's view of licensing Virtual
| > Machines
| >> on
| >>> a computer running the same OS, or even a version previously updated
| >> to
| >>> the current version has relaxed a bit. However, there are actually
| >>> provisions in the Windows 7 license that are very strict and make
| >>> ffollowing official Microsoft on screen instructions during
| >> installation
| >>> illegal! For instance, the way the licence is written, it is not
| >> legal to
| >>> create a dual oot system that can boot both the 32 bit and 64 bit
| >> versions
| >>> of Windows 7! However, any technical person at Microsoft will say
it
| >> is
| >>> perfectly legitimate. Currently installing and authorizing JAWS in a
| >>> Virtual Machine will use up aa license key! Everyone I talked to at
| >>> Freedom Scientific so far think that would be acceptable. I have
not
| >>> pushed it yet to the point where I needed to talk to a person to add
| >> more
| >>> keys, so I do not know how they would handle that. I have
considered
| >> a
| >>> dongle version of JAWS, which should automatically authorize as many
| >>> Virtual Machines as you like. Since I have not tried this, I have
no
| >> idea
| >>> if this has issues like the host falling back to demo mode if you
| >> spend
| >>> too much time in the Virtual Machine with the USB dongle attached.
| >>>
| >>> It sure makes open solutions like Linux and NVDA look great, since
| >> these
| >>> issues go away!
| >>>
| >>> Don Marang
| >>>
| >>> --------------------------------------------------
| >>> From: "Jacob Kruger" <jac...@mailzone.co.za>
| >>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 3:30 PM
| >>> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
| >>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
| >>>
| >>>> Along the lines of that, if I just wanted a clean, test instance of
| >> my
| >>>> current operating system - does it count as a licence issue if I
| >> install
| >>>> it on a virtual machine that runs within my normally used instance
| > of
| >> the
| >>>> same licenced installation?
| >>>>
| >>>> In other words, while I would be making use of 2 copies of the same
| >>>> licence, it would however be on the same physical machine.
| >>>>
| >>>> Suppose it might actually cause validation issues if they were both
| >>>> online at the same time as well.
| >>>>
| >>>> Not too important/relevant as such, but just wondering.
| >>>>
| >>>> Stay well
| >>>>
| >>>> Jacob Kruger
| >>>> Blind Biker
| >>>> Skype: BlindZA
| >>>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
| >>>>
| >>>> ----- Original Message -----
| >>>> From: "Frank Ventura" <frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com>
| >>>> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
| >>>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:05 PM
| >>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>>A virtual machine is just that another machine. You will need to
buy
| >> an
| >>>>> unused copy of the retail version of XP (try EBay) and install it
| >> into
| >>>>> a newly created virtual machine.
| >>>>> Frank Ventura
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>> -----Original Message-----
| >>>>> From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
| >>>>> [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
| >>>>> Andrews
| >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:42 PM
| >>>>> To: blind-computing
| >>>>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
| >>>>>
| >>>>> Hi,
| >>>>>
| >>>>> I was wondering if it would be possible to obtain a Windows XP
| >> virtual
| >>>>> machine. I already have VMware player installed. I did some
| > browsing
| >> on
| >>>>> the Internet, but it looks like I need to insert my Windows XP cd,
| >> which
| >>>>> I don't have Windows xp. Isn't the purpose of a vm is so you can
| > run
| >> it
| >>>>> without a cd?
| >>>>>
| >>>>> If anyone could direct to any links on the WEB where I may be able
| >> to
| >>>>> download a virtual machine, either Windows XP home or pro, that
| >> would be
| >>>>> much appreciated.
| >>>>>
| >>>>> Thank you.
| >>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
| >>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
| >>>>>
| >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
| >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
| >>>>> Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2696 - Release Date:
| >> 02/20/10
| >>>>> 07:34:00
| >>>>>
| >>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
| >>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
| >>>>>
| >>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
| >>>>> signature database 4883 (20100220) __________
| >>>>>
| >>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
| >>>>>
| >>>>> http://www.eset.com
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
| >>>> signature database 4883 (20100220) __________
| >>>>
| >>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
| >>>>
| >>>> http://www.eset.com
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
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| >>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
| >>>
| >>>
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| >>>
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| >>> signature database 4883 (20100220) __________
| >>>
| >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
| >>>
| >>> http://www.eset.com
| >>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
| >> signature database 4883 (20100220) __________
| >>
| >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
| >>
| >> http://www.eset.com
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
| >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
| >>
| >> No virus found in this incoming message.
| >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
| >> Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2699 - Release Date:
| > 02/20/10
| >> 07:34:00
| >>
| >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
| >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
| >>
| >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
| >> signature database 4883 (20100220) __________
| >>
| >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
| >>
| >> http://www.eset.com
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
| > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
| > signature database 4883 (20100220) __________
| >
| > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
| >
| > http://www.eset.com
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
| > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
| >
| > No virus found in this incoming message.
| > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
| > Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2699 - Release Date:
02/20/10
| > 07:34:00
| >
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