Hmmm you are right.
Smaller companies may have better chance.
There is hope for the xbox consoles,etc.
If the consoles have access themselves to an extent well it can be done.
And there are a few who are at least receptive like ea sports for
instance employing disabled in their staff as accessability managers and
the like so yeah its moving in patches.
What we need is soni/nentendo and especially valve to get completely on
board.
Its happening in bits and bobs.
Some stuff needs more cues and with the modability of some games and
consoles it is possible to program accessibility into things either
before they go or as external modules later.
Of course users may have to do that if they can and we may need to buy
extra modules so its not totally a lost cause.
You are right there is a lot of go out there.
On 22/12/2019 8:43 pm, David Gonçalves wrote:
Yes, Shaun, it's true. Mainstream games are always designed for
players with a standard set of abilities and it might stay that way.
But what's the problem here? Many researchers assort and disseminate
game accessibility guidelines. But the problem here is not that
industry don't want to follow guidelines. Developers have no ways to
accomodate different needs without severely limiting the gameplay.
There's universal accessibility in architecture and technology, but
when it comes to games, it seems something utopian. Because it's not
just about transmiting the information, it's about engaging different
players with different abilities and needs. I'm beginning my Master's
and all the research work I have planned is about inclusive gaming.
This is a preliminary phase, in which I'm reaching the blind and low
vision community. We have many ideas to explore. I expect I can show
you something soon that will give you hope regarding inclusive gaming.
David G
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Assunto: Re: [blind-gamers] Games for everyone
De: Shaun Everiss
Para: [email protected]
CC:
I actually agree here.
While a lot of blind people do dabble with video games, some more
successfully than others for me, I play text games and audio.
Due to my timezone to actually play any online game for any
measurable length of time is impossible unless I have a blank day.
Most of my days are full of something in the morning which means I
can't stay up all night to play as I once did.
Most games are sound based.
The sighted are not interested in blind games without graphics as
a rule and while smart devices have more inclusive hybrid type
games, and while we can play some on consoles and some emulators
there are still scarse hybrid games on windows with exceptions of
a few experiments like the blind eye, long ded, teraformers which
is no longer in development and a few others.
Visual novels made with renpy to some extent can be accessible, so
are games like sequence storm and code7.
Some even have had some success with fligh simulator but for
windows unless you use steam which can be hit and miss, there are
vary few games we can play with our sighted peers and while we
have a few, most of these are not online at all.
Even with the audio and text game industry its not huge, it
started with a hiss and a raw but its slowed down a lot, some bits
either do not exist or are basically stopped.
You can do only so much with sound after all and there are no
mainstream games per say for us right now.
It would be good for inclusive games on a grand scale but its
unlikely to happen, and while I'd never say never it may take a
while, before it happens if it ever does.
In fact its my view, that probably all the issues with blind
people in general may be solved before we even get this mainstream
issue with games handled to a satisfactory level but then I may be
off my rocker.
I do know that its likely I won't live to see that change though.
Then I may be wrong.
If the industry wants to move it can.
I have seen the net as a whole move from dialup to fibre in 10 or
so years, I have seen books and music, tv and streaming services
take over pirated content and standard tv.
Now if we could push some of this energy to games and other things
like security programs and software, and a few things like that
maybe we will see things appear.
This aint saying its not appearing but games move slowly, so slow
you can't see things move.
On 22/12/2019 1:51 am, Luke Hewitt wrote:
Hi.
I'm looking at the survey, but one question I have, is what do
you mean exactly by "video games" here.
Most gaming I do is either via audio or text games, especially
online gaming. I do play standard graphical games occasionally on
older devices with games that are still visually simplistic
enough for me to handle, with limited vision, but these are
mostly on older consoles like my Snes or retro remakes, so there
is no online component, plus I don't play these half as often as
audio or textual games these days.
So, before I complete the survey, I'd please like a little
qualification on what you mean by "video games" here, since some
people use "video games" to simply refer to games with graphics,
where as some people refer to all computer games, be they text,
audio or whatever as video games.
I would also suggest you make it clear on the survey exactly what
sort of games your talking about as well, otherwise you could end
up with erroneous data.
All the best,
Dark.
On 20/12/2019 17:46, David Gonçalves wrote:
Greetings, I’m David, a new member of the group. I hope that you
are all doing ok!
I'm a researcher and developer from Lisbon, Portugal and I'm
currently working with the blind and low vision community to
create games that can be enjoyable for players with different
levels of vision, for instance games that can be played and
enjoyed by the whole family and mixed-ability groups of friends.
Maybe you can help me.
I’m asking volunteers aged 18 or older to answer some online
questions. If you’re blind or have low vision and you like to
play games (videogames or tabletop games) you can help me,
answering the following short Microsoft Form
questionnaire:https://bit.ly/2r3XZKJ
<https://bit.ly/2r3XZKJ?fbclid=IwAR2bcMsSEoqhHaRMD9azZSVoHO-qbivxUGqQrSxert11lXg2pa5u4SgkLPs>.
If you’re sighted and you have a close relationship with someone
blind or with low vision who likes to play, you can also help me
by filling this second questionnaire:https://bit.ly/2PBBPJv
<https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2F2PBBPJv%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR28HWE_qWMKgK1jy-dsMTgMsN3yCP2POBsgjDba_u2hLZc0NEz9cLcSr0Y&h=AT2QLGqjPrO5VkqQnG2ggCd4y6rDfnQT056fkg04Q1A7ataImWdg_goY3B3Pix3OhnUokWDaMXuTSTF87HcadTbTbesXOIz8Kqjf_OlZ7Zg7wQNS975L5m2VaExEpu0fsGvcA6V9QIqZXYZltEUYqzh4LLQiFPn8VA>.
If you're blind or have low vision, you can further help,
sharing this second survey with your sighted friends.
Counting on you! Games must be for everyone! If you're
interested and want to know more, you can message me. Many
thanks and best regards!
David G
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