My late father-in-law was a plasterer, stone mason and cement finisher. He 
had a file box of recipes for different applications. There is one set of 
church steps in town that he patched about 25 years ago and they still are 
holding up.
Anyway I helped him a few times with steps. The one trick that I learned was 
to cut a 45 degree  along the bottom of the riser. That allows you to 
totally finish the top of each step. If you don't when you remove the forms 
you have a 1.5 " area along the back of each step to try and rub out.
The concrete is thick enough not to totally flow out from under each riser. 
Just make sure that the form is secured well enough. A few hundred pounds of 
wet cement can make an ugly mess if it gets away. He told me a few horror 
stories.
When we did my back steps he used 3/4" plywood for the sides and 2"x8" for 
the risers and countless 2"x4" side braces.
Lenny

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Rossi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 1:26 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] pouring cement stairs.


Anyone ever poured a set of cement stairs?  One future project for me
might be to rip out my front steps up to my porch.  They are cement but in
pretty bad shape.  Many people in the neighborhood have had their's
patched, but within a couple of years, they are in just as bad condition.
The patches just don't hold up.  So, I was thinking about just starting
over.

So, do you build a form that just has the sides and risers there, but no
treads so that you can use a float or trowel to smooth over the tread?  If
so, doesn't the weight of the cement from the riser above force the cement
in the lower tread to overflow?  Or is cement thick enough to resist the
pressure?  Or, is this not how you do it at all?

There are four steps up to my front porch.  There are sloping cheek walls
on either side of the steps.

I assume that the cement itself is not solid all the way threw to the
ground, but poured over rubble?  Is that correct?

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
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