At some time in the 90s the US government mandated that all toilets use 1.6 gallons or less. Not sure how the big boys do their jobs though. Last year I was redoing a bathroom for a friend and he picked up something called the Champion. The claim was that it could flush a dozen golf balls in 1 flush... Having a warped mind, I asked the sales guy who the hell is going to eat a dozen golf balls to see if it can actually do that... To this point I have to take their word for it because I won't waste a dozen of my Titleists to see if they go down or not. I know at $3.50 a ball they don't float and that makes them right expensive for the game I play at... ----- Original Message ----- From: chiliblindman To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 3:42 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] water saver johns
Hello Spiro. I have found there are a lot of people not very happy with water saver johns. The main complaint is they have to be flushed twice a lot of times. Water savers started at around 3.5 gallons with the lowest one around 1.28 gallon. I am sure there are some made with less than the 1.28 gallons. Some are valveless and others have valves like mine. I would think that it would be a little misleading since during the flush water is running into the tank and bowl from the valve. My new one probably uses 2 gal. at least per flush. That is fine and dandy for the average person that gets plenty of fiber. I weight in at 165 tops and the largest in my family. Now if I was constipated and needed help to go a water saver would require more than one flush. Very large people will require a larger water volume to flush. Quite the subject here to discuss. Any way I got the large comfort john and got the 1.6 gal tank. It is easy to get on and off since it is high and large. I could have gotten a larger tank for it that holds more water. That info will not come from a lowes type store at all. If I was doing this for kids since it was my children's bath, if young I would have gotten the 13 1/2 inch high john with a small tank. Since my son is now over six feet tall he said it was nice not to sit with his knees to his chin. So john and tank size should be according to size of the user. Those wall mounts are very nice unless you are big. If I was 300 lbs and shifted my butt to the side, the wall would move and after awhile it will leak and or break. That is the reason I asked at lowes and the plumbing outlets that I wanted a water saver that always works right. The only thing the guy at lowes kept saying was the distance from the wall was standard around 12 inches for the bolts. I couldn't pull anymore info from him. One thing I can say about my 7.5 gal one in the basement, it will flush anything smaller than an elephant. I am not sure about the water usage of the up-chuck. I have not seen any for sale for years and that was special orders only. .......................bob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
