Hi guys, We put in a new water saver toilet a couple of months ago after doing some investigation and talking to plumbers about which ones worked the best. We ended up putting in an American Standard one that is named the cadet three. It uses around one and a half to one and three quarters gallons of water depending how high you set the float. A plumber told me had this same toilet for about two years and has never had a clog. We have had n problems yet and it seems to flush very well. In shopping around I looked at this one and the Toto. The Toto toilet that compared very closely to the Cadet three was considerably more expensive. Plumbers tell me what you have to look for in a low volume toilet is the size of the hole where the water leaves the tank and the size of the throat that leaves the bowl. I think the throat in this one is one and seven eighths inch which is the largest that is made. I hope I am remembering that measurement right. Good luck with your new new toilets and nhopefully many good flushes. Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] water saver johns Thank you. The reasons given are why I don't want to make a mistake when I next buy a toilet. It wil l be soon as a wash cloth stopped up the one that then cracked when I investigated the continuing clog. So sounds like 2 gall is safe. I will remember to look for 16-17 inch and around 2g. But what then is the difference between valvedless and valved? Again, thanks On Sun, 6 Jan 2008, chiliblindman wrote: > Hello Spiro. I have found there are a lot of people not very happy with water saver johns. The main complaint is they have to be flushed twice a lot of times. > Water savers started at around 3.5 gallons with the lowest one around 1.28 gallon. I am sure there are some made with less than the 1.28 gallons. Some are valveless and others have valves like mine. I would think that it would be a little misleading since during the flush water is running into the tank and bowl from the valve. My new one probably uses 2 gal. at least per flush. That is fine and dandy for the average person that gets plenty of fiber. I weight in at 165 tops and the largest in my family. Now if I was constipated and needed help to go a water saver would require more than one flush. Very large people will require a larger water volume to flush. > Quite the subject here to discuss. Any way I got the large comfort john and got the 1.6 gal tank. It is easy to get on and off since it is high and large. I could have gotten a larger tank for it that holds more water. That info will not come from a lowes type store at all. If I was doing this for kids since it was my children's bath, if young I would have gotten the 13 1/2 inch high john with a small tank. Since my son is now over six feet tall he said it was nice not to sit with his knees to his chin. > So john and tank size should be according to size of the user. Those wall mounts are very nice unless you are big. If I was 300 lbs and shifted my butt to the side, the wall would move and after awhile it will leak and or break. > That is the reason I asked at lowes and the plumbing outlets that I wanted a water saver that always works right. The only thing the guy at lowes kept saying was the distance from the wall was standard around 12 inches for the bolts. I couldn't pull anymore info from him. > One thing I can say about my 7.5 gal one in the basement, it will flush anything smaller than an elephant. > I am not sure about the water usage of the up-chuck. I have not seen any for sale for years and that was special orders only. > .......................bob > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
