First forgive me for *not changing the sub-line.
Bob as it seems you have 
investigated water saver toilets:
How many gallons does it take to um, remove a large human deposit?
For blind folks, we don't want to leave something for the next person?
What amount do most water saver toilets disburse now-a-days?
Thanks,


On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, chiliblindman wrote:

> Hello Scott.  The distributor panel does allow to have separate runs directly 
> to any fixture if you want.  You can run a hot and cold line to an area and 
> tee to go to more than one fixture in an area.  Also available are small 
> brass manifolds with multiple fittings to attach pex to and go to I think 
> about 4 fixtures from one point.
>     Saddle valves go right on to pex the same as if it is copper.  Also one 
> person mentioned about the push fittings for the pex.  There are two kinds I 
> think as far as pressure and both are very nice to work with and blind 
> friendly.  The low pressure goes up to 90 psi and the high pressure fittings 
> go over 150 psi I think.  The low is plenty for what I am doing.  My water 
> pressure here is over 50 psi and most people are not ready for that and have 
> a glass knocked out of their hands when they try to get water for a quick 
> drink.  I live less than a quarter mile from the pressure reservoir on the 
> hill where I walk.
>     There are fittings to go from any kind of pipe to any kind of tubing.  
> Most plumbers I know now use the push fittings and report no problems.  You 
> only use them once.  You do want to invest into a cutter for the plastic pipe 
> so you get a true 90 degree cut at the fitting end.  The cutters are very 
> cheap and they also do pvc and others but not metal.
>     Yesterday I cut the water off, got the two sinks out, removed the vanity 
> top and the vanity.  Took a break around supper and worked till 10 last 
> night.  I decided to remove the john right away and did that also.  Crowbars 
> came out and so did the floor.  I have decided to check on a water saver 
> toilet that flushes properly and put one of them in since I have gone this 
> far.  The one I removed uses about 4 gallons a flush.  I'll install it in the 
> basement where the john uses 7.5 gallons a flush.  That one is only used when 
> the place is fully crowded about twice a year or when I work in the basement 
> on projects.  My two other baths I have installed water saver johns in the 
> past.  My hands are really sore today.
>     For me as in any project, the hardest and largest part of any job is 
> starting.  Mentally overcoming a point of saying and going to the doing 
> point.  So most of the work is done by starting, the only thing yet to do is 
> now finish.  I have three month to do the little part so I'll always be on 
> schedule now.  The nice thing is all the new information I'll learn when I 
> run into a problem that needs solved.  That info and pinched fingers will 
> help with any future projects.
> ...................bob
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