Bob, An old friend of mine who's father was a plumber found one in the back of 
his dad's old shop. It was never used so Bill had it slightly upgraded. He had 
the tank and chain highly polished and lacquered. When he remodeled his home he 
built the "King and Queen's room" off the new rec room. He had to place the 
bottom on a 3" platform to allow for the drain. He called it the real throne 
and made a replica of a scepter to hold the paper. He finished the water closet 
in red with a red sink and highly polished brass fixtures. And a sign that 
states that it is the King and Queen room.
I think that Australia is far ahead of us as far as water savor toilets. A few 
years ago when we were there I was surprised to find the toilets with two 
buttons on top. One for low flush and the other for a high flush. I am getting 
ready to replace the four year old Colar with the comfort height version 
because of my wife's arthritis. I think that it will help her. I was looking 
for one with two flush levels but can't find one in our area.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: chiliblindman 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 8:18 AM
Subject: Re:[BlindHandyMan] water saver johns


Spiro, the standard toilet that most of us probably know, have the valve in the 
bottom of the tank operated by the flush handle.
The valve less have a kind of tank or bucket inside the tank that tilts to 
dump. The push to make water saver toilets resulted in small tanks that didn't 
work and inserts into older ones that didn't work right. They displaced water 
volume in order to displace water usage.
The newer ones kind-a have the same tank size and some have the same water 
volume; but, only the top part of the water is used. The water, located in the 
upper portion of the tank has the power and momentum. The water mass gives 
pressure even if it is not all used and the height of drop adds power to flush 
faster.
I hope that makes it a little clearer and not muddied the whole idea. The real 
old toilets with a water tank near the ceiling always flushed good with a 
smaller water volume plus a roar and a half. Do you remember those? It would 
not surprise me if they came back in designer fashion.
....................bob

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