Not only that but it's now illegal to discharge freon without a way to recover it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Max Robinson To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] do you really want to be a plumber?
Many years ago I developed a gas leak and called a service man because I had no experience in that area. He disconnected the gas meter and pressurized the line from a tank of Freon, the same kind used in air conditioners. He then used a Freon leak detector to find the leak. I think Freon is too expensive now to be used in that way. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "lenny McHugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] do you really want to be a plumber? > Using a flame is a very old way of testing. A pipe fitter friend told me > after installing my gas lines that if there is a leak It would only flare > up > at that point. Since there is only about 3 pounds of pressure there is not > enough gas to cause a problem. Since then they use a vacuum test for new > installs prior to charging the line. A vacuum must be held for 24 hours. > If > it fails there is a leak in the line. When he added on to the line, a few > years later, for my dryer, he used an electronic sniffer to test for a > leak. > He still prefers the Zippo lighter method but it upsets too many people. > My > wife was one of these. > Now if he went into a place and smelled gas he would first turn it off at > the meter ventilate the area then charge the line and use the sniffer. In > this scenario there would be a substantial gas build up. > The flame would cause the problem that he described as two guys passing a > few hundred feet in the air. The one yelled do you know anything about > parachutes and the other yelled no! do you know anything about gas grills. > Lenny, Please visit my home page http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/ > It is motivational, educational, humorous and has a lot of resources. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cy Selfridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 1:59 PM > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] do you really want to be a plumber? > > > David, > Now, I know you are going to think that I am a liar - but - one of the > local > plumbers tests for leaks by lighting a rolled newspaper and passes it > around > the new connection. The first time I saw him do this I was headed for some > other place to be! > I suppose that so long as there was not a build up of gas this is probably > safe but, no thanks folks. > The soap you spoke of is something like Dawn dishwashing soap. It will do > a > great job of bubbling up if there is a leak. > Cy, the Ancient Okie.... > > _____ > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of David Ferrin > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 7:12 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] do you really want to be a plumber? > > > > How do you test for a gas leak my friend? I've watch plumbers rub soap on > the connections and look for bubbles. > David Ferrin > www.jaws-users.-com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "martin webster" <HYPERLINK > "mailto:webstermartin%40yahoo.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <HYPERLINK > "mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 6:59 AM > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] do you really want to be a plumber? > >> Hi, >> I think the answer to this question is yes and know. Plumbers work on >> many different >> sites and in many different locations in one week, and this you would >> have > >> a problem >> with as a totally blind individual. I do much work for family and good >> friends, and the kind of work I do is plumb >> in washing machines, dish washers, move radiators, move sinks, install >> outside taps, >> and much more. You could certainly learn to master many of the techniques >> involved >> in plumbing even soldering won't be a problem if you feel you can cope >> with it. >> There are different levels of training for this profession and not all >> plumbers take >> them all, for instance if you want to train to install and maintain gas >> appliances >> such as fires, boilers, kilns and spa systems, then that's a different >> level of >> training again. I do all the maintance myself On my own combination >> theating and >> hot water system, and then pay to have it gas tested after woulds. I all >> so have a carbonmonoxcide detector installed near the appliance. Safety >> is Paramount when dealing with gas. I have never >> had a problem though working in this way, and feel totally comfortable >> doing this type of >> work as a totally blind man. Again, with soldering I have know problems, >> I use a >> T500 turbo torch which burns butane, propane, or mapp gas depending on >> what I'm doing. >> Just use really good turbo mats and I mean really good ones and you will >> be fine. All so remember to totally purge any gas pipe work that you are >> about to solder, I kid you not. >> Again I feel very comfortable with this kind of work and tooling, and I >> cannot stress this >> enough. If your not comfortable with any of this forget the whole thing. >> I do own a water filled manometer, which my sighted girl friend reads to >> me, and this I use for checking gas pressures. The talking multimeter >> from >> Germany >> can check pressures, but I don't know how useful it would be for this >> type > >> of work. >> I've never examined one so I couldn't say. So to sum all this up, you >> could learn to do the work in an environment you new, and to a very high >> standard too, but I think not in the real world. Hope this helps a >> little. >> Regards. >> Martin Webster. >> From the UK. >> >> >> >> ____________-_________-_________-_________-_________-_________-_ >> Be a better friend, newshound, and >> know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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