That's funny, I've heard from people who have the Kerby (without the sales 
experience) that it's a good machine. But I've heard that the visit of the 
salesperson can make for visceral aversion. What's up with that?
Do they work well with bad personel? Or are they really inferior machines?
On Tue, 13 May 2008, Matt wrote:

> Hhaahahahaha,
> Well, glad to hear that you're not bitter at least eh?
> hahahahah,
> I just wanted to chime in here and say that I also have a friend who loves 
> the rainbow, for what it's worth.
> We had the curbie sales group experienc e here at my house.
> I still feel dirty from the experience!
> We did not and will not buy one of those.
> Crazy!!
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Robert j
>  To: [email protected]
>  Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 6:18 PM
>  Subject: cleaning the Rainbow Was RE: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums
>
>
>  In my opinion the Rainbow is the best you can get as far as cleaning not
>  clogging and since the air and dirt goes through water you have mear 0
>  emitions and it puts out perfect humidity. Meaning it puts out the same
>  humidity weather the room is way too dry or way too humid it will come out
>  the exhaust at some where around 45 percent. Don't quote me on the
>  percentage. OK Now that I have the free advertising out of the way.
>  By the way I don't sell them I just like the quality. And thought I would
>  share.
>  Any way the purpose of my post is to ask Larry or any one that might have a
>  newer model. Are the newer ones still just as much a pain in the rumpus as
>  the old ones to empty and clean the water reservoir? The one we have I
>  think we got it in about 1996 or there about. No newer than 1998 so it is at
>  least 10 years old. The only thing I don't like about the rainbow is
>  emptying it.
>  My Wife just loves this rainbow because in her little world it is
>  completely self filling, self cleaning, self propelled and it takes itself
>  out and puts itself back away when it is done. Hmm I wonder how it does
>  all that? Grin.
>  Robert
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Behalf Of Larry Stansifer
>  Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:43 PM
>  To: [email protected]
>  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums
>
>  How can you tell if it missed anything?
>  Do we use the barefoot test?
>  I am vaguely interested in this robotic vacuum however I am pretty damn good
>  with my rainbow canister and it is going to take some convincing to make me
>  jump ship for some machine that I don't control.
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>  [mailto: [email protected]
>  <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]
>  On Behalf Of Jeff Balek
>  Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 3:56 PM
>  To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums
>
>  Hi Shawn! My robotic vacuum also goes under the couch too. I have to have
>  somebody help me charge it up every so often. The best time to use it I
>  think is when I'm out of my apartment for awhile doing something, and then
>  when I get back, I check it to see how it did, and if it vacuumed everywhere
>  and I also check to find out if it missed anything.
>  Jeff Balek
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Shawn McMurdo
>  To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>  Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:52 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums
>
>  I have an iRobot Roomba.
>  It works pretty well and didn't need any setup.
>  I just push the power button and then I push the clean button.
>  It works on both carpet and hard floors.
>  The best part is that it goes under the couch!
>  Shawn
>
>  --==--==--
>  Shawn McMurdo
>  See my Low Vision Guide at
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>  ----- Original Message ----
>  From: Jennifer Jackson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  <mailto:jennifer_jackson%40cox.net> >
>  To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>  Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 2:25:23 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums
>
>  Now is it just the original set up that needs sighted assistance? After
>  that do you just charge it up and let the little guy run? Will one set up do
>  both carpet and hard surfaces? What about moving it from upstairs to down?
>
>  Jennifer
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Jeff Balek
>  To: blindhandyman@ yahoogroups. com
>  Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 1:51 PM
>  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums
>
>  have a robotic vacuum and I love it. I set it up to vacuum my whole
>  apartment whenever I go out of my apartment for grocery shopping or
>  something. My sister helps me set it up, because it's kind of tricky. I
>  really like the blind handy man show a lot. Sometimes I help my sister Jenny
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>  handyman show and I'm very proud to be a part of this list.
>  Jeff Balek from Charlotte North Carolina
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