> Hi,
> I wonder how other brands avoid getting DH caught up in the belt.
> I have a Orick, and as it is not a gear drive or idler drive as my 
> Electro-Lux it can burn up belts when it eats a sock. I"ve also found that 
> the dreaded Dog Hair will get in between the roller and the roller cap which 
> sits in the housing allowing the roller free spin. I think I removed an 
> eighth inch thick cord of hair from the place. It had restricted roller spin 
> to the point that it was wearing away the little teeth inside the belt and 
> causing further slippage. Those belts stink when damaged. orick is cheaply 
> built, and the suction is not that of an Electro-Lux. They use a motor of 
> much less amperage than the electrolux and very good sighted folks have said 
> that they can see a difference.
> Knowing the folks that gave me the previous negative Kerby reports I think it 
> was the "mediocre performance, high price, and unsupported enthusiasm" of the 
> sales pitch that wrecked it in their cases; as well.
>
>
> On Wed, 14 May 2008, Scott Howell wrote:
>
>>  Well I had a Kerby back in the early 90's. I did sell it and recovered
>>  some of my money, but here's what I thought. It was well constructed,
>>  I figured you could drop it off a very high building and it would
>>  continue to work. What I did not like was the fact dog hair etc. could
>>  become rapped up in the belt and that was a major issue. The ability
>>  to clean carpets wasn't really all the impressive, and the salesperson
>>  was ok, but you saw they really had to push the product since I'd
>>  imagine they didn't make a massive chunk of change. Of course I don't
>>  know what they actually get, but point is the machines are really well
>>  built, but I think a bit much for what you get. So, there's my
>>  thoughts for whatever they are worth.
>>
>>  On May 14, 2008, at 12:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>> >  That's funny, I've heard from people who have the Kerby (without the
>> >  sales
>> >  experience) that it's a good machine. But I've heard that the visit
>> >  of the
>> >  salesperson can make for visceral aversion. What's up with that?
>> >  Do they work well with bad personel? Or are they really inferior
>> >  machines?
>> >  On Tue, 13 May 2008, Matt wrote:
>> > 
>> > >  Hhaahahahaha,
>> > >  Well, glad to hear that you're not bitter at least eh?
>> > >  hahahahah,
>> > >  I just wanted to chime in here and say that I also have a friend
>> >  who loves the rainbow, for what it's worth.
>> > >  We had the curbie sales group experienc e here at my house.
>> > >  I still feel dirty from the experience!
>> > >  We did not and will not buy one of those.
>> > >  Crazy!!
>> > >  ----- Original Message -----
>> > >  From: Robert j
>> > >  To: [email protected]
>> > >  Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 6:18 PM
>> > >  Subject: cleaning the Rainbow Was RE: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic
>> >  vacuums
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > >  In my opinion the Rainbow is the best you can get as far as
>> >  cleaning not
>> > >  clogging and since the air and dirt goes through water you have
>> >  mear 0
>> > >  emitions and it puts out perfect humidity. Meaning it puts out the
>> >  same
>> > >  humidity weather the room is way too dry or way too humid it will
>> >  come out
>> > >  the exhaust at some where around 45 percent. Don't quote me on the
>> > >  percentage. OK Now that I have the free advertising out of the way.
>> > >  By the way I don't sell them I just like the quality. And thought
>> >  I would
>> > >  share.
>> > >  Any way the purpose of my post is to ask Larry or any one that
>> >  might have a
>> > >  newer model. Are the newer ones still just as much a pain in the
>> >  rumpus as
>> > >  the old ones to empty and clean the water reservoir? The one we
>> >  have I
>> > >  think we got it in about 1996 or there about. No newer than 1998
>> >  so it is at
>> > >  least 10 years old. The only thing I don't like about the rainbow is
>> > >  emptying it.
>> > >  My Wife just loves this rainbow because in her little world it is
>> > >  completely self filling, self cleaning, self propelled and it
>> >  takes itself
>> > >  out and puts itself back away when it is done. Hmm I wonder how it
>> >  does
>> > >  all that? Grin.
>> > >  Robert
>> > > 
>> > >  -----Original Message-----
>> > >  From: [email protected] 
>> > >  [mailto:[email protected]
>> > ] On
>> > >  Behalf Of Larry Stansifer
>> > >  Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:43 PM
>> > >  To: [email protected]
>> > >  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums
>> > > 
>> > >  How can you tell if it missed anything?
>> > >  Do we use the barefoot test?
>> > >  I am vaguely interested in this robotic vacuum however I am pretty
>> >  damn good
>> > >  with my rainbow canister and it is going to take some convincing
>> >  to make me
>> > >  jump ship for some machine that I don't control.
>> > > 
>> > >  -----Original Message-----
>> > >  From: [email protected] 
>> > >  <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
>> > > 
>> > >  [mailto: [email protected]
>> > >  <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]
>> > >  On Behalf Of Jeff Balek
>> > >  Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 3:56 PM
>> > >  To: [email protected] 
>> > >  <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
>> > > 
>> > >  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums
>> > > 
>> > >  Hi Shawn! My robotic vacuum also goes under the couch too. I have
>> >  to have
>> > >  somebody help me charge it up every so often. The best time to use
>> >  it I
>> > >  think is when I'm out of my apartment for awhile doing something,
>> >  and then
>> > >  when I get back, I check it to see how it did, and if it vacuumed
>> >  everywhere
>> > >  and I also check to find out if it missed anything.
>> > >  Jeff Balek
>> > > 
>> > >  ----- Original Message -----
>> > >  From: Shawn McMurdo
>> > >  To: [email protected] 
>> > >  <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
>> > > 
>> > >  Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:52 PM
>> > >  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums
>> > > 
>> > >  I have an iRobot Roomba.
>> > >  It works pretty well and didn't need any setup.
>> > >  I just push the power button and then I push the clean button.
>> > >  It works on both carpet and hard floors.
>> > >  The best part is that it goes under the couch!
>> > >  Shawn
>> > > 
>> > >  --==--==--
>> > >  Shawn McMurdo
>> > >  See my Low Vision Guide at
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>> > > 
>> > >  ----- Original Message ----
>> > >  From: Jennifer Jackson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >  <mailto:jennifer_jackson%40cox.net> >
>> > >  To: [email protected] 
>> > >  <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
>> > > 
>> > >  Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 2:25:23 PM
>> > >  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums
>> > > 
>> > >  Now is it just the original set up that needs sighted assistance?
>> >  After
>> > >  that do you just charge it up and let the little guy run? Will one
>> >  set up do
>> > >  both carpet and hard surfaces? What about moving it from upstairs
>> >  to down?
>> > > 
>> > >  Jennifer
>> > > 
>> > >  ----- Original Message -----
>> > >  From: Jeff Balek
>> > >  To: blindhandyman@ yahoogroups. com
>> > >  Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 1:51 PM
>> > >  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Robotic vacuums
>> > > 
>> > >  have a robotic vacuum and I love it. I set it up to vacuum my whole
>> > >  apartment whenever I go out of my apartment for grocery shopping or
>> > >  something. My sister helps me set it up, because it's kind of
>> >  tricky. I
>> > >  really like the blind handy man show a lot. Sometimes I help my
>> >  sister Jenny
>> > >  do yard work, and when I move into a condo probably next year, I
>> >  won't have
>> > >  to do any yard work because there are professionals who do yard
>> >  work in
>> > >  condos. Like I said earlier in this post, I love the coverage on
>> >  the blind
>> > >  handyman show and I'm very proud to be a part of this list.
>> > >  Jeff Balek from Charlotte North Carolina
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