Actually, natural gas makes a lot of sense.  The ones on the site Lenny 
provided are a little bigger and probably more expensive than what I'm thinking 
about, but maybe a smaller unit can be converted.


Bill Stephan 
Kansas Citty MO 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Phone: (816)803-2469


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee A. Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] generators Thermol windows
> 
> yes sir. you can install any kind of generator you can afford.  
> gasoline it sounds like would be your last choice and where as  
> with 
> Lp gas  and.  or natural gas you would not have to worry about 
> that 
> disposal  . any generator is an ivestment and it would pay  if you 
> 
> had one installed to have what we call here " drills"  do not wait 
> until the last moment when the extra power is needed.> just a fyi Lee 
> 
> On 
> Tue, Jul 
> 29, 2008 at 
> 12:58:13PM -0400, Lenny McHugh wrote: 
> > Bill, A friend was just talking about installing a natural gas 
> backup 
> > generator system. I know that they make propane generators for 
> campers. I 
> > did a quick search and found this site: http://www.cumminsonan.com 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > To: <[email protected]> 
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:16 PM 
> > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] generators Thermol windows 
> > 
> > 
> > Yeah Lenny, good points.  One of the things I have to work out 
> is that I 
> > don't own a car or other gas engine at this point, so unless 
> this got used, 
> > I'd have to occasionally dispose of gasoline.  Anybody know how 
> long you can 
> > keep gas in a Gerry can or tank before it gets funky and unusable? 
> > 
> > 
> > Bill Stephan 
> > Kansas Citty MO 
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Phone: (816)803-2469 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Lenny McHugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > Date: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:55 pm 
> > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] generators Thermol windows 
> > > Bill, I have been thinking about that for a long time and keep 
> > > putting it 
> > > off. Many years ago in  Money Magazine they recommended that you 
> > > have a min 
> > > of 4500 kw generator and treat it as an insurance policy. Not only 
> > > for the 
> > > winter but also summer. It mentioned about your freezers and the 
> > > average 
> > > dollar value of food. In the winter you can cycle your heat to 
> > > keep pipes 
> > > and bathroom fixtures from freezing. They stated that you should 
> > > treat it as 
> > > a one time payment as an insurance policy and hope you never have 
> > > to 
> > > collect. 
> > > Lenny 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "William Stephan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > To: <[email protected]> 
> > > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 9:51 PM 
> > > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Thermol windows 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks Bob, I'll do that tomorrow. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What I found out so far is that it really depends, and you better 
> > > be real 
> > > careful who you deal with.  I talked to three firms that 
> > > supposedly did 
> > > energy audits and two of them were ready to sell me more 
> > > insulation without 
> > > even looking at the property and the third guy told me I probably 
> > > ought to 
> > > buy a new furnace. 
> > > 
> > > So, I got a hold of the general contractor who did our massive 
> > > remodelingwhen we first bought the place and who is honest and 
> > > does excellent work. 
> > > He told me that in a home less than thirty years old it probably 
> > > didn't make 
> > > a lot of sense to put thermal windows in, but in one as old as 
> > > ours, where 
> > > the windows are not at all tight, they probably made sense.  He 
> > > had two 
> > > prices, one he thinks is $550 a pop, and one at about $440. 
> > > According to 
> > > this fellow the $440 one is the way to go since the higher dollar 
> > > windowisn't really all that different, just better known. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On a sort of related note, can any of you give me good 
> suggestions or 
> > > techniques I can use to convince my wife we really have to 
> have a 5KW 
> > > generator in case we have an ice storm this Winter?  So far I've 
> > > come up 
> > > with, "The cat will die if we can't stay here, because he 
> can't go 
> > > to a 
> > > hotel, even if we could find a room somewhere after an event like 
> > > that". 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > From: [email protected] 
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of chiliblindman 
> > > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 20:02 
> > > To: [email protected] 
> > > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Thermol windows 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Bill, if you search for window R value or R insulation factor you 
> > > shouldcome up with something workable. 
> > > ...................bob 
> > > 
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