Bill, I didn't check out the prices. I at a quick glance saw that they had 
some2500 and 3500 units for campers. A natural gas would really be ideal 
since you would have no refills.
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Actually, natural gas makes a lot of sense.  The ones on the site Lenny 
provided are a little bigger and probably more expensive than what I'm 
thinking about, but maybe a smaller unit can be converted.


Bill Stephan
Kansas Citty MO
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: (816)803-2469


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee A. Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] generators Thermol windows
>
> yes sir. you can install any kind of generator you can afford.
> gasoline it sounds like would be your last choice and where as
> with
> Lp gas  and.  or natural gas you would not have to worry about
> that
> disposal  . any generator is an ivestment and it would pay  if you
>
> had one installed to have what we call here " drills"  do not wait
> until the last moment when the extra power is needed.> just a fyi Lee
>
> On
> Tue, Jul
> 29, 2008 at
> 12:58:13PM -0400, Lenny McHugh wrote:
> > Bill, A friend was just talking about installing a natural gas
> backup
> > generator system. I know that they make propane generators for
> campers. I
> > did a quick search and found this site: http://www.cumminsonan.com
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] generators Thermol windows
> >
> >
> > Yeah Lenny, good points.  One of the things I have to work out
> is that I
> > don't own a car or other gas engine at this point, so unless
> this got used,
> > I'd have to occasionally dispose of gasoline.  Anybody know how
> long you can
> > keep gas in a Gerry can or tank before it gets funky and unusable?
> >
> >
> > Bill Stephan
> > Kansas Citty MO
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Phone: (816)803-2469
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Lenny McHugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:55 pm
> > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] generators Thermol windows
> > > Bill, I have been thinking about that for a long time and keep
> > > putting it
> > > off. Many years ago in  Money Magazine they recommended that you
> > > have a min
> > > of 4500 kw generator and treat it as an insurance policy. Not only
> > > for the
> > > winter but also summer. It mentioned about your freezers and the
> > > average
> > > dollar value of food. In the winter you can cycle your heat to
> > > keep pipes
> > > and bathroom fixtures from freezing. They stated that you should
> > > treat it as
> > > a one time payment as an insurance policy and hope you never have
> > > to
> > > collect.
> > > Lenny
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "William Stephan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 9:51 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Thermol windows
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Bob, I'll do that tomorrow.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What I found out so far is that it really depends, and you better
> > > be real
> > > careful who you deal with.  I talked to three firms that
> > > supposedly did
> > > energy audits and two of them were ready to sell me more
> > > insulation without
> > > even looking at the property and the third guy told me I probably
> > > ought to
> > > buy a new furnace.
> > >
> > > So, I got a hold of the general contractor who did our massive
> > > remodelingwhen we first bought the place and who is honest and
> > > does excellent work.
> > > He told me that in a home less than thirty years old it probably
> > > didn't make
> > > a lot of sense to put thermal windows in, but in one as old as
> > > ours, where
> > > the windows are not at all tight, they probably made sense.  He
> > > had two
> > > prices, one he thinks is $550 a pop, and one at about $440.
> > > According to
> > > this fellow the $440 one is the way to go since the higher dollar
> > > windowisn't really all that different, just better known.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On a sort of related note, can any of you give me good
> suggestions or
> > > techniques I can use to convince my wife we really have to
> have a 5KW
> > > generator in case we have an ice storm this Winter?  So far I've
> > > come up
> > > with, "The cat will die if we can't stay here, because he
> can't go
> > > to a
> > > hotel, even if we could find a room somewhere after an event like
> > > that".
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of chiliblindman
> > > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 20:02
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Thermol windows
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill, if you search for window R value or R insulation factor you
> > > shouldcome up with something workable.
> > > ...................bob
> > >
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