The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 277 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Nitrile gloves for wrenching question Re: Bridgestone 730s Re: E30 Hub conversion Re: Nitrile gloves for wrenching question Re: Nitrile gloves for wrenching question Re: New Fuzion Tires Re: spray on wax Re: spray on wax NY Times: In California, 'Garage Mahals' Are Not Just for Cars Cam Journals Re: Cam Journals Re: Cam Journals Earnhardt Re: Earnhardt Re: Earnhardt
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:09:18 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bmw list) Subject: Re: Nitrile gloves for wrenching question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From Joel Gallun > >On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Mike Hsu wrote: > >> http://www.microflex.com/disComp/distributor/images/misMaterials/miscpdfs/ChemResChart_Latex&Nitrile.pdf >> >> I haven't read through this thread so if anyone else >> put a similar chart up sorry for the redundant info. > >Thanks. It wasn't redundant. > >Cliff notes: latex not recommended for use with gasoline, kerosene, or >motor oil. Neither latex nor nitrile recommended for use with brake fluid. > >I wonder what material is recommended for use with brake fluid? > >joel > Stainless steel. -- Joe -- Joseph M. Krzeszewski Network Operations [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack of All Trades, Master of None... Yet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:10:19 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: M Kittock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bridgestone 730s Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hmmmm. I have RE730s, never thought they were that noisy (on the other hand, they replaced AVS-Intermediates, not known for being quiet either...) but they have seen a half dozen days on the track too :) Maybe thats what kept them quiet. Mark Kittock 328i Sport, many mods... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 19, 2004 2:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] Bridgestone 730s The 730s get quieter if you take them to the track and chunk off 30% of the tread. Marc Plante E36 M3/4, 53k 2002 Audi AR E36 325i, 220k [Gone] Vienna, VA Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:41:46 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: E30 Hub conversion Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kevin, this is not a particularly cost-effective conversion. The common options are: Front: E30 M3 suspension & brakes Rear: E30 M3 suspension & brakes, OR 318ti suspension and brakes, OR Z3 suspension and brakes I think those are all options. I don't know which is the best or more reliable. There are still a fair number of 4 lug wheels available for the E30, check out the Tire Rack web site. If the intent is just to get bigger brakes, why not just upgrade the pads, cooling and fluid? Much cheaper than upgrading the whole suspension just to get bigger brakes, and pretty much just as effective. OTOH, if you're going with 17 inch or 18 inch rims, the stock brakes will look pretty tiny behind those wheels! Dave Adams did the M3 suspension conversion on his now-departed '92 325iC M-Technik. http://www.davelength.net/ Click on Cabrio, Modifications/Articles, 5-Lug Conversion. I forget how many thousands of $$$ he spent on the conversion, but clearly it is not something you want to do unless the car is a real "keeper". HTH, Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:18:25 -0700 >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: E30 Hub conversion >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Gents, > >It looks like my son and I will get an E30 for him to drive. One question >arises. How is the hub conversion done to convert from 4 bolt to 5 bolt? I >have seen some web data that suggests it can be done with E36 suspension >parts or E30 M3 parts. Which is best? Which most reliable? It would seem >that the E36 route would allow more variation in upgrade paths for both >front and back. > >-Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:56:59 -0700 From: "J. Ochi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Nitrile gloves for wrenching question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 01:29 PM 7/19/2004, Joel Gallun wrote: >On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Mike Hsu wrote: > > > > http://www.microflex.com/disComp/distributor/images/misMaterials/miscpdfs/ChemResChart_Latex&Nitrile.pdf > > > >Cliff notes: latex not recommended for use with gasoline, kerosene, or >motor oil. Neither latex nor nitrile recommended for use with brake fluid. > >I wonder what material is recommended for use with brake fluid? I think you skipped a line - both latex and nitrile are OK for brake fluid. Neither are recommended for use with non-chlorinated brake cleaner. Nitrile is recommended for use with the regular brake cleaner. Oh, and neither are recommended for use with carb cleaner, so you might want to put on your heavy duty chemical proof gloves before you clean the carb on your 2002... Jim Ochi ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:07:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Nitrile gloves for wrenching question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi. Brake fluid is ok with both latex and nitrile. I think you just went up or down a line on the chart. That whitish yellow and whitish blue guide line is not very helpful in following the line :). Mike --- Joel Gallun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Mike Hsu wrote: > > > > http://www.microflex.com/disComp/distributor/images/misMaterials/miscpdfs/ChemResChart_Latex&Nitrile.pdf > > > > I haven't read through this thread so if anyone > else > > put a similar chart up sorry for the redundant > info. > > Thanks. It wasn't redundant. > > Cliff notes: latex not recommended for use with > gasoline, kerosene, or > motor oil. Neither latex nor nitrile recommended for > use with brake fluid. > > I wonder what material is recommended for use with > brake fluid? > > joel > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:10:49 -0400 From: "Michael Gambini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: New Fuzion Tires Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I had the RE730's on my old car, and liked the handling, but the noise was pretty nasty as they got worn. The RE750's are supposed to be improved. I will probably try them next on my M3. The Avons that came on that car are very noisy, and not even worn. MikeG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Dorffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [UUC] New Fuzion Tires > > I am in the process of looking at what is offered in 205/55/15 which is a > strange size. I am looking for a decent all around spring-fall tire which > will only see street duty (good dry and wet traction, decent tread life, low > noise). The Bridgestone Potenza RE750 looks to be good choice for the money > (under $100 each). Anyone using these? The Dunlop SP8000 wouldn't be bad > either although the technology is getting a bit old. Toyo T1S is probably > overkill for street commuter duty. > > Later, > > Rich ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:38:09 -0700 From: "Ziv Gillat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: spray on wax Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Steve, How goes it? What's the Sick Shine Shop? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Albrecht Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 9:06 PM To: undisclosed-recipients: Subject: [UUC] spray on wax I am looking for recommendations for a spray on wax. The purpose is to wax the various painted areas in the engine room. Since a paste or cream type of wax is inappropriate for this application, I figure a spray on type is a reasonable alternative. Has anyone had any experience with these products? Thanks in advance Steve Albrecht The Sick Shine Shop Cupertino, CA Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:40:40 -0700 From: "Ziv Gillat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: spray on wax Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oops, sorry. It was meant for Steve, not everyone. I apologize. Fingers too quick with Outlook... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ziv Gillat Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 4:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] spray on wax Hi Steve, How goes it? What's the Sick Shine Shop? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Albrecht Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 9:06 PM To: undisclosed-recipients: Subject: [UUC] spray on wax I am looking for recommendations for a spray on wax. The purpose is to wax the various painted areas in the engine room. Since a paste or cream type of wax is inappropriate for this application, I figure a spray on type is a reasonable alternative. Has anyone had any experience with these products? Thanks in advance Steve Albrecht The Sick Shine Shop Cupertino, CA Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:45:50 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "911" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "BMW List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ferrari List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: NY Times: In California, 'Garage Mahals' Are Not Just for Cars Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/18/realestate/18NATI.html?8dt In California, 'Garage Mahals' Are Not Just for Cars By NICHOLAS GRUDIN Published: July 18, 2004 BAKERSFIELD, Calif. AT 6 feet 10 inches tall, the financial consultant Brad Barnes needs a lot of things custom built. His home's doors are more than a foot higher than standard, and a go-cart he made for himself for fun looks about the size of a Mini Cooper. But what's most indicative of this man's need for space is his garage, which with six car bays is at the cutting edge of a trend in high-end real estate: the "garage mahal." Mr. Barnes's 1,700-square-foot garage is an airy contiguous room more than a third the size of his 4,800-square-foot custom home, leaving plenty of space for five cars, five motorcycles and his colossal go-cart. "If I had it to do again, I'd do 12 — I'd go double-deep," he said, standing on the gleaming light green epoxy finish that covers the garage's cement floor. Just down the street in Mr. Barnes's gated community of Brimhall Classics, Dennis Bernard also has shelter for six vehicles. Mr. Bernard, owner of a meat distribution company, has three separate two-car garages attached to his $750,000 brick abode: one for his son Brandon, one for his wife, Janice, and one for him. His garages' many amenities include carpeting, cable TV, speakers wired to the home stereo system and a bathroom. "I've always liked garages and I don't think you can have enough of them," Mr. Bernard said. Home builders and real estate analysts say consumer demand for bigger garages is more than the passing fancy of a few Bakersfield bigwigs. Throughout the nation from 1992 to 2003, the percentage of garages built with three or more stalls rose to 19 percent from 11, according to the Commerce Department. And in the West, where basements are rare and thus storage space scarce, the trend is even more pronounced as 33 percent of garages built in 2003 fit at least three cars. Although the number of garages built with four or more bays is not tracked, anecdotal evidence suggests a spike in those as well, said Gopal Ahluwalia, an economist at the National Association of Home Builders. "Upscale housing is tending toward four-car garages," Mr. Ahluwalia said. "In the West, I would venture to guess that about 10 percent are four or more. Everybody wants more garage — the basis of it is that bigger is better." Each stall added to a garage costs about $7,000, depending on the regional market. For remodels, garage additions cost about 15 percent more, Mr. Ahluwalia said. In general, extra garage space will recover more than 80 percent of its cost when a home is sold. Large, obtrusive garages can detract from the value of a home if they dominate its front elevation, but there are a number of ways to camouflage them, according to Arthur C. Danielian, president of Danielian Associates Architecture & Planning in Irvine, Calif. "Architects and builders have gotten a lot more creative and have done a really good job on the street scene by playing down garages," he said. For example, Mr. Barnes's garage is attached to the rear of his home and Mr. Bernard's three are staggered alongside his house, blending inconspicuously with the rest of the brick structure. Other methods of concealing large garages include building them detached, or making them tandem so two cars fit one after another. Residential developers — from boutique custom builders to major national companies — are catching on to the demand for bigger garages and adjusting their offerings accordingly. KB Home of Los Angeles, the fifth-largest builder in the nation, recently introduced four-stall garages in Southern California, something the company has never done before, according to Jeffrey Mezger, the chief operating officer. "The garage is now part of the lifestyle of the home people live in," he said. "It's a flex space that they now incorporate into the way they live." The steady growth of GarageTek, a franchiser of garage organization systems that is based in Syosset, N.Y., reflects this trend. The company, founded in 2000, had $13 million in sales through its 67 franchises last year, up from $1.1 million in 2001. Marc Shuman, GarageTek's founder and president, said the company is on pace for $22 million in sales this year. GarageTek installs flooring, cabinets and shelves, touting "a revolutionary concept in home improvement" by transforming cluttered garages into "flex space." The company says it has come across an increasing number of four-, five- and six-car garages. "Larger garages will ultimately become the recreation focal point of the home — people will be working out and potting plants in there and kids will be playing in there," Mr. Shuman said. "The garage is evolving into a different room than it has traditionally been known. The garage that we've seen up until the 90's will not be the garage we see in 2010. It's an inexpensive, very functional space." The most obvious explanation for growing garages is that people simply have more cars and other "toys," such as boats, jet skis, motorcycles and recreational vehicles, said Phil Gaskill, owner of Gaskill Custom Homes in Bakersfield, which built Mr. Barnes's and Mr. Bernard's garages. More people are also buying sports utility vehicles, he noted. "Now Junior has a car and dad has a second car that he uses on weekends, and add in a boat and, gosh, you don't want that to sit out in the sun, and then mom and dad bought a Harley for Wednesday night rides, so you have to have a place for that," said Mr. Gaskill, who has built several homes with five or six bays. "It's like bathrooms — everybody feels like they ought to have their own personal vehicle and their own garage stall," he added. Standing outside his palatial brick trio of garages admiring an immaculate 1938 Ford pickup, one of six family vehicles, Mr. Bernard could not agree more. "You have to build your garage first and your home second," he said. "It's like the old saying: the guy who dies with the most toys wins." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 19:01:45 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cam Journals Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When a cam journal wears out is it the bearing surface of the cam itself that wears out? How does one correct for the head bearing surface wear when putting in a new cam? -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 22:57:20 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Cam Journals Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Compared to crankshaft bearings, cam bearings have very little load and seldom wear to an appreciable degree. Crap in the oil is the main cause of wear. With good oil that is changed regularly, there should be no problem. Gary Derian > When a cam journal wears out is it the bearing surface of the cam itself > that wears out? How does one correct for the head bearing surface wear when > putting in a new cam? > > -Kevin > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 22:23:28 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cam Journals Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have never worked on a BMW head, but I have on other makes. Usually the cam journal wears very little, it is the bearings that wear. Rarely are these a replaceable, like mains and rod bearings, on an overhaed cam engine. It actually wears the saddle in the head and the cap too. I know sometimes you can either trim the saddles and caps like they do on a rod and have the cam journals line bored, depends on the amount of damage and the design of the head. David in Richmond, VA -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 19, 2004 10:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UUC] Cam Journals When a cam journal wears out is it the bearing surface of the cam itself that wears out? How does one correct for the head bearing surface wear when putting in a new cam? -Kevin Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 22:51:59 -0400 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Earnhardt Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Can someone explain to me why all the news coverage is about the "lucky Dale who escaped this horrific crash with minor injuries" and not about "why did this Corvette burst into flames after a very insignificant rear impact with a tyre wall". What a joke. The car and it's designers tried to kill him, and he's a hero for surviving. Brett Anderson KMS --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.720 / Virus Database: 476 - Release Date: 7/14/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:10:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Earnhardt Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I second that. I've been wondering the same thing all day. And you're absolutely right - all (racing) things considered, it was a very mild impact. They showed the rear-facing bumper camera, and on impact, you could see fuel gushing in front of the lens for a second or two, and then the car just burst into flames. I'm no technical wizard, but isn't a fuel cell supposed to prevent just this type of thing? Maybe they were using the fuel tank from a vintage Mustang? Neil --- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can someone explain to me why all the news coverage > is about the "lucky Dale > who escaped this horrific crash with minor injuries" > and not about "why did > this Corvette burst into flames after a very > insignificant rear impact with > a tyre wall". > > What a joke. > > The car and it's designers tried to kill him, and > he's a hero for surviving. > > Brett Anderson > KMS > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign! http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/yahoo/votelifeengine/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 00:35:51 -0400 From: "Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Earnhardt Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's easy to 2nd guess engineers who have built a very successful race car right? The impact appeared to be mild on the replay, but remember it rendered JR in a near unconscious state for several seconds. For any of you that have been involved in wrecks on track, it tacks a hard lick from behind to do that. Hitting backwards with your full weight supported in a racing seat and still being dazed is a hard impact. I was more surprised they did not have a automatic fire suppression system. He was lucky to come too and get out. From the looks of it there would have been several seconds before a emergency worker could have reached him by which time he would have been badly burnt. Fire is rare these days but accidents like this still show how dangerous it can be. Remember he surely was wearing the latest safety gear, suit and helmet etc and still received burns on his legs in those few seconds. I remember my suit being rated for 20seconds but I question that now seeing how he was burnt in a matter of 5 seconds. Mike -> -----Original Message----- -> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil N. -> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:10 PM -> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> Subject: Re: [UUC] Earnhardt -> -> -> I second that. I've been wondering the same thing all -> day. And you're absolutely right - all (racing) -> things considered, it was a very mild impact. -> -> They showed the rear-facing bumper camera, and on -> impact, you could see fuel gushing in front of the -> lens for a second or two, and then the car just burst -> into flames. I'm no technical wizard, but isn't a -> fuel cell supposed to prevent just this type of thing? -> -> Maybe they were using the fuel tank from a vintage -> Mustang? -> -> Neil -> -> --- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -> > Can someone explain to me why all the news coverage -> > is about the "lucky Dale -> > who escaped this horrific crash with minor injuries" -> > and not about "why did -> > this Corvette burst into flames after a very -> > insignificant rear impact with -> > a tyre wall". -> > -> > What a joke. -> > -> > The car and it's designers tried to kill him, and -> > he's a hero for surviving. -> > -> > Brett Anderson -> > KMS -> > -> > -> -> -> -> -> __________________________________ -> Do you Yahoo!? -> Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign! -> http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/yahoo/votelifeengine/ -> Search the -> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -> -> -> _____________________________________________________________ -> _____________ -> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of -> the BMW CCA. -> -> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the -> Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 -> . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com -> ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
