The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 284 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: pricey citrus Think you've got parking ticket problems? Torque Wrenches Re: Torque Wrenches Re: Torque Wrenches Re: Torque Wrenches Re: Torque Wrenches Re: Service Interval Cheat Sheet Trailing arm bushing Shock Installation - Voodoo? Re: Shock Installation - Voodoo? Class action SAV airbags ?? Re: Class action SAV airbags ?? CD Changer Repair? Gloves
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:05:23 -0500 From: "Scott Staewen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: pricey citrus Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Okay, I'm a pathological cleaner with $34 burning a hole in my pocket. :) What can I say, it's an illness. at $5/gal for zep, maybe I'll do a "battle of the citrus cleaners" on my garage floor. rss >Scott Staewen posts...Citrus APS is $34/gal. >Whew, what's in that stuff, liquid gold? For that price it should etch >concrete. >The Zep product is about $5/gallon. >Cheers >Steve _________________________________________________________________ Planning a family vacation? Check out the MSN Family Travel guide! http://dollar.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 19:57:11 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BMW List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "911" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ferrari List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Think you've got parking ticket problems? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2004/07/22notagtagsbringf.ht ml 'NOTAG' tags bring flood of tickets By MARY ALLEN Staff reporter 07/22/2004 Jim Cara wanted a vanity license tag that would make people laugh. But when he chose "NOTAG" for the plate on his Suzuki Hayabusa, a sleek blue and silver motorcycle with a speedometer that reaches 220 mph, the joke backfired. The new tag arrived Saturday under an avalanche of Wilmington parking violations. "All the traffic tickets say, 'Notice of violation. License number: no tag,' " Cara said. City computers, talking to state Division of Motor Vehicles computers, had finally found an address for ticketed vehicles that lacked license tags: Cara's home in Elsmere. "I messed up the system so bad," Cara said. "I wonder if they can put me in jail or something?" He has received more than 200 violation notices. The mail carrier came twice on Saturday. Cara opened a few. They ranged from $55 to $125 for violations such as meter expirations. Cara, 43, who works for the American Motorcycle Association, said he's been a lifelong prankster. This time, though, "the cleanup is going to be worse than the joke," he said. At first, "I was scared to go out with it," Cara said of the Suzuki. So he called Wilmington police Saturday and said he gave the desk sergeant a chuckle. Then he called the city this week. John Rago, communications director for Mayor James M. Baker, said an incorrect computer code used by the contractor that processes the city's parking violations helped land the tickets in Cara's mail. City officials planned to have it corrected Wednesday, he said. Wilmington appeared to be the only jurisdiction with the no-tag computer glitch, said Kelly Pitts, spokeswoman for the state Transportation Department, which oversees the motor vehicle division. Delaware traffic officials screen applications for vanity tags primarily to prevent motorists from obtaining vulgar phrases on their license plates, she said. Cara's choice, while quirky, isn't distasteful. Though it appeared Cara's problem was being resolved, Pitts said Cara's best insurance against future problems would be to change the "NOTAG" plate. But Cara loves it. "I want to keep it," he said. "I think it's awesome." ______________ vty, --Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:59:36 -0600 From: "Dave and Peg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'UUC Digest'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Torque Wrenches Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What torque wrench do you use for an 18 pound torque requirement. I have been looking at 3/8" drive torque wrenches and they seem to be a very high range. One was 10 to 80 range and the other is 5 to 75 lbs. Both of those seem too high on the low end to get an accurate torque at 18 lbs. The 1/4" drive wrench was more like the range I wanted, but I would like to have 3/8" drive. Thanks Dave 95 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:48:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Howard Siegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'UUC Digest'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Torque Wrenches Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Dave and Peg wrote: > What torque wrench do you use for an 18 pound torque requirement. I have > been looking at 3/8" drive torque wrenches and they seem to be a very high > range. One was 10 to 80 range and the other is 5 to 75 lbs. Both of those > seem too high on the low end to get an accurate torque at 18 lbs. The 1/4" > drive wrench was more like the range I wanted, but I would like to have 3/8" > drive. Torque wrenches are most accurate near the middle of their ranges. To do 18 ft-lbs, you'd need something like a 2-40 range wrench, but I've not seen one like that (not that I've done much looking). I went with a 3/8" 2-21 ft-lb wrench and a 1/2" 20-150 ft-lb wrench and a set of adapters to get me from 1/4" to 3/4" drive sockets. - h -- hsiegel~at~pobox~dot~com <*> Netcom Class of '93, RIP Netcom! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:53:37 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Torque Wrenches Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Jul 22, 2004, at 6:48 PM, Howard Siegel wrote: >> What torque wrench do you use for an 18 pound torque requirement. I >> have >> been looking at 3/8" drive torque wrenches and they seem to be a very >> high >> range. One was 10 to 80 range and the other is 5 to 75 lbs. Both of >> those >> seem too high on the low end to get an accurate torque at 18 lbs. >> The 1/4" >> drive wrench was more like the range I wanted, but I would like to >> have 3/8" >> drive. > > Torque wrenches are most accurate near the middle of their ranges. > To do 18 ft-lbs, you'd need something like a 2-40 range wrench, but > I've not seen one like that (not that I've done much looking). I > went with a 3/8" 2-21 ft-lb wrench and a 1/2" 20-150 ft-lb wrench > and a set of adapters to get me from 1/4" to 3/4" drive sockets. http://www.griotsgarage.com/catalog.jsp?&SKU=11901 3/8" drive, 5-45 lb/ft. I have one. Nice wrench. - Mark ----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:06:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Howard Siegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Torque Wrenches Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Mark Dadgar wrote: > On Jul 22, 2004, at 6:48 PM, Howard Siegel wrote: > >> What torque wrench do you use for an 18 pound torque requirement. I > >> have > >> been looking at 3/8" drive torque wrenches and they seem to be a very > >> high > >> range. One was 10 to 80 range and the other is 5 to 75 lbs. Both of > >> those > >> seem too high on the low end to get an accurate torque at 18 lbs. > >> The 1/4" > >> drive wrench was more like the range I wanted, but I would like to > >> have 3/8" > >> drive. > > > > Torque wrenches are most accurate near the middle of their ranges. > > To do 18 ft-lbs, you'd need something like a 2-40 range wrench, but > > I've not seen one like that (not that I've done much looking). I > > went with a 3/8" 2-21 ft-lb wrench and a 1/2" 20-150 ft-lb wrench > > and a set of adapters to get me from 1/4" to 3/4" drive sockets. > > http://www.griotsgarage.com/catalog.jsp?&SKU=11901 > > 3/8" drive, 5-45 lb/ft. > > I have one. Nice wrench. Cool! However, I got my wrenches before I caught my Griot's habit and that wrench is costs about 2.5x more than the small SK wrench that I have. - h -- hsiegel~at~pobox~dot~com <*> Netcom Class of '93, RIP Netcom! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:49:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Torque Wrenches Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Get a 1/4 to 3/8 adaptor and the 1/4 torque wrench. Gary Derian --- Dave and Peg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What torque wrench do you use for an 18 pound torque > requirement. I have > been looking at 3/8" drive torque wrenches and they > seem to be a very high > range. One was 10 to 80 range and the other is 5 to > 75 lbs. Both of those > seem too high on the low end to get an accurate > torque at 18 lbs. The 1/4" > drive wrench was more like the range I wanted, but I > would like to have 3/8" > drive. > > Thanks > Dave > 95 M3 > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:51:05 -0700 From: Herman Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Service Interval Cheat Sheet Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Spark Plugs - 15,000 miles Dunno who suggested this, but BMW started installing 100k mile platinum plugs in most, if not all of their engines in 1999. Even though I wouldn't leave them in that long, 15k would be serious overkill, especially at ~$13/each. If another party has already replaced them with a regular copper plug, or crappy +4's then adjust accordingly. The standard OE copper plugs prior to '99 seem to be good for about 30k miles, in line with original recommendation. Herman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 00:21:57 -0300 From: "rblangille" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Trailing arm bushing Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Many thanks to Brett Anderson and Jim Ochi for their responses. Given there's a special tool that will (should) make quick work of it, this will be a task I'll leave to the dealer. Thanks again. Roger -----Original Message----- > I seem to recall that when I had these replaced on my 92 325i, > the mechanic > was able to get the job done WITHOUT removing the drive axle, > notwithstanding that Bentley says otherwise. > > I'm thinking of replacing these busing on my '97 328ic, as a preventive > measure. Am I correct that this can be done without removing the > drive axle, or am I dreaming? > > That aside, any (other) tips? > > Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 00:34:49 -0300 From: "rblangille" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Shock Installation - Voodoo? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Somewhere, but I cannot, for the life of me, remember where, I read that new shocks and struts should be fully extended for 12 hours or something like that before being installed on the car. Can't remember quite why, but it seemed to make sense at the time. Ring a bell with anyone? Roger Langille 328ic ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:48:22 -0500 From: "Karl Zemlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Shock Installation - Voodoo? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You'll probably find it on paperwork included with your shocks/struts. They want to be kept pointy-end up for 12 hours - possibly to make sure all the gas is in the correct place. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rblangille Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UUC] Shock Installation - Voodoo? Somewhere, but I cannot, for the life of me, remember where, I read that new shocks and struts should be fully extended for 12 hours or something like that before being installed on the car. Can't remember quite why, but it seemed to make sense at the time. Ring a bell with anyone? Roger Langille 328ic ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:21:08 -0500 From: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Uucdigest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Class action SAV airbags ?? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What's the story behind the "BMW SUV Owner " (sic ) who has started a lawsuit against BMW due to the airbags unintentionally deploying while she cruised a freeway (Great off-road challenge for an SAV ) . When she took it to three different BMW dealers they ALL pulled out some kind of standard BMW non-disclosure form which she refused to sign ....ergo the lawsuit .. Did I hear it clearly? ...on NPR money-program this eve (Marketplace July 22nd) .... Bill Proud Stuck in Tennessee for the summer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:06:34 -0700 (PDT) From: wy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Class action SAV airbags ?? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I heard the same thing too on NPR. Another black eye to BMW NA.. --- BMWBits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's the story behind the "BMW SUV Owner " (sic ) > who has started a > lawsuit against BMW due to the airbags > unintentionally deploying while > she cruised a freeway (Great off-road challenge for > an SAV ) . When she > took it to three different BMW dealers they ALL > pulled out some kind of > standard BMW non-disclosure form which she refused > to sign ....ergo the > lawsuit .. > Did I hear it clearly? ...on NPR money-program this > eve (Marketplace > July 22nd) .... > > Bill Proud > Stuck in Tennessee for the summer > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:49:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CD Changer Repair? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gruppe: Any ideas where I can send my E34 92 CD changer (Alpine) for repair? It won't power up. Fuses are fine. Thanks! Neil Deshpande ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 09:52:13 -0700 From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "E30 Yahoo Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Gloves Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Please pardon the cross-posting, I'm just trying to reach as many knowledgeable folks as possible. Last week on the UUC Digest we were talkin' about gloves. We determined that neither latex nor nitrile is suitable for working with brake fluid. I was waiting to hear what gloves ARE suitable for working with brake fluid, but I never saw the answer. Of course, I'm still working on my Rear Wheel Bearing From Hell project. In this latest iteration, I'm removing the trailing arms so that I can take them to Bill Arnold's shop. Bill will R&R the wheel bearings and also install my new adjustable trailing arm bushings. Then I'll just throw it all back in the car. "Throw", of course, is a relative term that, in this case, involves much pushing and shoving and wrenching and swearing and knuckle-busting, but I digress. The point is, the drive axles are out; the parking brake cables are out; the ABS wheel sensors are out; the right side pad wear sensor is out; the springs are out; and two of the four main mounting bolts (driver's side) are busted loose and ready to be removed. Besides the other two bolts, all that is left is to disconnect the brake lines from the calipers and body, cap the ones on the body to keep from draining the master cylinder and ABS unit, and then remove the arms. And since there will be a fair amount of brake fluid draining and dripping all over the place, I'd sure like to have a pair of just the right gloves for the task. Thus my question. TIA, Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
