The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 680 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Installing VDO gauges Re: alignment, steering, car wash Re: Installing VDO gauges Re: Installing VDO gauges Novice students with big HP, was Re: Porsche Fatality Re: Novice students with big HP, was Re: Porsche Fatality Re: Novice students with big HP, was Re: Porsche Fatality Re: M30 crank nut Re: Novice students with big HP, was Re: Porsche Re: Porsche Fatality Porsche Fatality
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:03:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Installing VDO gauges Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pop out the cover of the glove box light. There's a bolt through the top of the glove box underneath it. Well actually it's above it, but you know what I mean. Brian '94 325ic -----Original Message----- From: wy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Jun 3, 2005 12:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] Installing VDO gauges Yes, its an e36. I'm removing the glovebox so that I can remove the kick panel in order to pull back the carpet to give me better access to the hole in the firewall. Will --- Marco Romani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > we maybe able to help you if you gave an idea as to > model of BMW you're > working on. I would have guessed it was an E36 but > for the life of me I > can't figure out why you'd be removing the glovebox > on an E36 to get to the > sunglass holder. > > Marco > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of wy > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:56 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [UUC] Installing VDO guages > > > Hi, > I'm in the middle of installing a set of VDO > gauges > to replace the sunglass holder. The 6 screws holding > the glovebox compartment had been removed. But > glovebox will not yield when pulling on the glovebox > door. Am I missing any more screws not detailed in > the > Bentley? > Secondly, do I route the wire using the same hole > in > the firewall which the battery and alarm wiring > runs? > It does not look like there is enough room. Is there > another hole in the firewall? > Thanks! > > Will > > > > > > > > Get Firefox! > > > > __________________________________ > Discover Yahoo! > Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM > and more. Check it out! > http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > Get Firefox! __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:13:09 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: alignment, steering, car wash Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Chad and Scott, Some years back, I had an alignment done by a tire and wheel place in Campell (Calif). The tech, a young but very consiensious kid, put a thick wire brace on the steering wheel that kept the wheel centered. He also had me sit in the car to simulate the normal weight on the front end. -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:14:33 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Installing VDO gauges Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ah ha. There is no other hole I know of on that side of the car that goes through the fire wall. My wires were run through that battery cable grommet, it wasn't pretty, but it worked. I've just recently modified the whole thing, but that's easy to do when then entire interior is out of the car. Most of the wiring harness runs from the drivers side across the interior of the firewall to the passenger side where you'll find things like the ABS computer, the cruise control computer, yada^2 The glove box should practically fall out if you have all the screws out, did ya get the one by the light? Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of wy Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] Installing VDO gauges Yes, its an e36. I'm removing the glovebox so that I can remove the kick panel in order to pull back the carpet to give me better access to the hole in the firewall. Will --- Marco Romani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > we maybe able to help you if you gave an idea as to > model of BMW you're > working on. I would have guessed it was an E36 but > for the life of me I > can't figure out why you'd be removing the glovebox > on an E36 to get to the > sunglass holder. > > Marco > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of wy > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:56 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [UUC] Installing VDO guages > > > Hi, > I'm in the middle of installing a set of VDO > gauges > to replace the sunglass holder. The 6 screws holding > the glovebox compartment had been removed. But > glovebox will not yield when pulling on the glovebox > door. Am I missing any more screws not detailed in > the > Bentley? > Secondly, do I route the wire using the same hole > in > the firewall which the battery and alarm wiring > runs? > It does not look like there is enough room. Is there > another hole in the firewall? > Thanks! > > Will > > > > > > > > Get Firefox! > > > > __________________________________ > Discover Yahoo! > Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM > and more. Check it out! > http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > Get Firefox! __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:52:00 -0700 (PDT) From: wy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Installing VDO gauges Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yeah.. I looked at the engine side of the firewall and it looks like the rubber sleeve does not have any more room to accomodate any more wires. The instructions that came with the VDO kit say to cut one of the nipple. I do see some nipples under the jumpstart connector next to the hole where the battery cables comes through. But I did not see the opening from the inside. Will --- Marco Romani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ah ha. > > There is no other hole I know of on that side of the > car that goes through > the fire wall. My wires were run through that > battery cable grommet, it > wasn't pretty, but it worked. I've just recently > modified the whole thing, > but that's easy to do when then entire interior is > out of the car. Most of > the wiring harness runs from the drivers side across > the interior of the > firewall to the passenger side where you'll find > things like the ABS > computer, the cruise control computer, yada^2 > > The glove box should practically fall out if you > have all the screws out, > did ya get the one by the light? > > Marco > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of wy > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:54 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [UUC] Installing VDO gauges > > > Yes, its an e36. I'm removing the glovebox so that I > can remove the kick panel in order to pull back the > carpet to give me better access to the hole in the > firewall. > > Will > > --- Marco Romani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > we maybe able to help you if you gave an idea as > to > > model of BMW you're > > working on. I would have guessed it was an E36 > but > > for the life of me I > > can't figure out why you'd be removing the > glovebox > > on an E36 to get to the > > sunglass holder. > > > > Marco > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > > Of wy > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:56 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [UUC] Installing VDO guages > > > > > > Hi, > > I'm in the middle of installing a set of VDO > > gauges > > to replace the sunglass holder. The 6 screws > holding > > the glovebox compartment had been removed. But > > glovebox will not yield when pulling on the > glovebox > > door. Am I missing any more screws not detailed in > > the > > Bentley? > > Secondly, do I route the wire using the same > hole > > in > > the firewall which the battery and alarm wiring > > runs? > > It does not look like there is enough room. Is > there > > another hole in the firewall? > > Thanks! > > > > Will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get Firefox! > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Discover Yahoo! > > Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM > > and more. Check it out! > > http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html > > Search the > > > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > > founder of the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > > home of the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > Search the > > > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > > founder of the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > > home of the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > > Get Firefox! > > > > __________________________________ > Discover Yahoo! > Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and > more. Check it out! > http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > Get Firefox! __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 10:19:06 -0700 From: Brian Ghidinelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Novice students with big HP, was Re: Porsche Fatality Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Carlos Lopez wrote: > So what do you say to your student that shows up in the 500-600hp car > and it's his first time? or maybe not 500hp but they show up in an > Elise or a Radical or a Noble? "Don't try to impress me, because you can't. And don't try to scare me, because I already am." Credit goes to someone more clever than I... Brian -- http://www.MotorsportReg.com MotorsportReg.com processes online registration and payment for your track, autocross and social events National track events calendar: http://www.MotorsportReg.com/calendar ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:22:23 -0400 From: "Della Barba, Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Novice students with big HP, was Re: Porsche Fatality Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have taught people to sail and to fly, but being a driving instructor takes some 'nads unless you've got a dual-control car. Joe Della Barba -----Original Message- ---- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Ghidinelli Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:19 PM To: UUC Digest Subject: Novice students with big HP, was Re: [UUC] Porsche Fatality C ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:45:15 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Novice students with big HP, was Re: Porsche Fatality Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Joe wrote: >I have taught people to sail and to fly, but being a driving instructor takes some 'nads unless you've got a dual-control car. ================ I had a novice student once who was also a flight instructor. We compared notes as to what the differences were, and he remarked that he didn't think he could do what I was doing, to be a track instructor. When I asked him why not, he replied, "because I have a set of controls myself, AND it's 5000 feet to the concrete, rather than 5 feet!!!" vty, --Dennis . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 10:20:01 -0700 From: "JS Nord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M30 crank nut Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A large impact wrench (twin hammer, 400 + ft/lbs) seems to do the trick quite nicely. I've had several removed this way. Takes less than 30 seconds. 32mm nut if I recall. Jeff >From: "Eric Benjamin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "UUC Digest" ><[email protected]> >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [UUC] M30 crank nut >Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 01:18:56 -0400 > > >----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: [UUC] M30 crank nut > > >>Are you turning the nut in the correct direction? I know this seems >>like a stoopid question, and I honestly don't know which way is >>correct. Right might be right, or right might be wrong. In other >>words, make sure your left doesn't need to be your *other* left. >************* > >this makes my nuts hurts >not to mention my brains >;-p >Eric-->thinking "righty=tighty; lefty=loosey" > >Eric Benjamin >'I put the "Home" in home cooking, and I've got the recipe for real estate >success!' >Keller Williams Realty-First Atlanta >The #1 Keller Williams office in the Southeast! >Cell: 404-277-1122 >Fax: 404-531-5708 >www.EricBenjamin.com > > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 13:24:59 -0500 From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Novice students with big HP, was Re: Porsche Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Control is the key. You need to take control of the situation as soon as you sit down in the car and establish a rapport with the students that lets you "control" the car verbally. remember your first school? You were probably talked through every "Easy squeeze" of the gas and brake pedals...when and where to press wich pedal where to look, when to signal passes, where to be on the track. Instructors are driving the car with a crude form of voice control instead of pedals and wheels. and they get one or two sections on long straights per lap to *maybe* explain an element of "why." It takes a lot of focus, particularly since you have to feel what's happening around you and adjust CONSTANTLY, but it's really gratifying when it flows and the student learns a lot. Plus, I feel like I owe the club for the previous generation of instructors who taught ME. I don't want to shell out $2k for Skippy school. Marc Plante E36 M3/4, 64k Vienna, VA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Della Barba, Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Novice students with big HP, was Re: [UUC] Porsche Fatality Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:22:23 -0400 > > > > I have taught people to sail and to fly, but being a driving instructor > takes some 'nads unless you've got a dual-control car. > > Joe Della Barba > -----Original Message- > ---- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Ghidinelli > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:19 PM > To: UUC Digest > Subject: Novice students with big HP, was Re: [UUC] Porsche Fatality > > > > C > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:33:27 -0700 From: Raza Uddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Porsche Fatality Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Whenever I instruct, I always tend to seek out the newer BMW and Porsche owners. Witnessing first hand the ability of both DSC and PSM save drivers, I always tell my students to keep the stability control on. Not only does it give me piece of mind, but it is simple to tell students where they are pushing too hard and not pushing enough with a safety net. The most important thing I tell newbies is that they have to drive within their means. I have no qualms letting a student know that I think they are pushing too much for their skill level. Its been said a millions times before (and to me when I started): DEs are not races, and you aren't going to get a prize at the end. The satisfaction comes from learning and being able to drive home in one piece once the day ends. Drive Safely, Raza On 6/3/05, Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What you should say is, "Here, let's contact-cement this > piece of 2x4 under your throttle pedal." > > -tammer <--1st school in a street car in July; E28 with > bone-stock M30 motor. Couldn't hit 165 mph unless it was > dropped from a plane. > > --- Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- wy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The rumor was that there is no corner workers and > > > chief steward on site. Only the infield track was > > > used and no oval. The CGT driver had to swerve to > > > avoid hitting a f-car exiting the pit. > > > > I've done events like those and usually you have to be > > very selective > > as to who gets invited. You want experienced folks and > > even then > > there's a lot of risks involved, hopefully the track is > > open enough > > that you can see way ahead and if you have to go off > > there's plenty of > > grass and no armco to hit close by. > > > > Different point but obviously Vettes, Vipers, M5s, etc > > are now going to > > be in the 500hp and beyond HP range. I feel bad for you > > guys that are > > instructors and have to deal with these cars. Ideally > > people have > > moved up to those cars and have experience on the track > > with cars with > > less HP but I'm sure that's not always going to be the > > case. IMO > > everyone should start with an E30 and move up from there. > > :-) > > > > So what do you say to your student that shows up in the > > 500-600hp car > > and it's his first time? or maybe not 500hp but they > > show up in an > > Elise or a Radical or a Noble? > > > > Carlos. > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Make Yahoo! your home page > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > Search the > > > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder > > of the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of > > the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Discover Yahoo! > Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! > http://discover.yahoo.com/ > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:47:24 -0700 (PDT) From: kjk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Porsche Fatality Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The photos indicate the passenger compartment was quite intact. Accordingly, I don't know if a cage would have done much to help. I would assume it was the impact that caused the fatalities. Although serious injuries can happen at any speed, I wouldn't track a Viper, Z06 or Carrera GT type of car without a HANS and full safety equipment. The speeds they can reach are far in excess of your average clubracer and beyond the safety envelope designed into street cars. Kevin Kelly '91 M5 P.S. At the risk of making someone angry, my experience at Ferrari club events is that the driving level is rather low and there are some very good advanced drivers in the advanced group with other drivers that have no business being there. Sounds like the F-car guy relied on the steward to re-enter. I rely on my mirrors and have actually waived off the steward. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(11 messages) **********
