The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 727 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: E36 325i question - OBD1 O2 sensor & MPG needle Re: E36 325i question - OBD1 O2 sensor & MPG needle Re: E36 325i question - OBD1 O2 sensor & MPG needle Will M Coupe wheels fit on an E36 sedan? Re: Will M Coupe wheels fit on an E36 sedan? Re: E36 325i question - OBD1 O2 sensor & MPG needle Fw: <E30> Convertible Suspension Choices E30 Eibach springs FS was <E30> Convertible Suspension Choices Re: Redline SL1 Re: Redline SL1 <E36> For sale E36 325 front rotors, E36 M3 front calipers, E36 M3 radiator
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:56:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Thoeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: uucdigest <[email protected]> Subject: E36 325i question - OBD1 O2 sensor & MPG needle Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Did I hear a while back that a wavering MPG needle can be a sign of a dying O2 sensor? When my car first starts up and has not yet warmed up, it runs badly when the R's run between 2-3K. Also, when driving at a constant speed, I often notice the MPG needle bouncing back and forth in a square-wave type fashion. I don't think I've seen the needle bouncing as much after the car has warmed up, but I can't say I've paid attention to that so much since the car runs better after it has warmed up. When I say warmed up, I mean the stock needle is straight up, but my VDO water temp gauge says 120F or so. any ideas on this? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:23:23 -0400 From: "Mark Distelhorst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E36 325i question - OBD1 O2 sensor & MPG needle Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My E30 with an M50 has developed the swinging RPM needle as you described. I previously had a bad O2 sensor but did not have the swinging RPM needle so I'm not sure if that is the cause. Are you throwing any codes? Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Thoeming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "uucdigest" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:56 PM Subject: [UUC] E36 325i question - OBD1 O2 sensor & MPG needle > Did I hear a while back that a wavering MPG needle can > be a sign of a dying O2 sensor? > > When my car first starts up and has not yet warmed up, > it runs badly when the R's run between 2-3K. > > Also, when driving at a constant speed, I often notice > the MPG needle bouncing back and forth in a > square-wave type fashion. > > I don't think I've seen the needle bouncing as much > after the car has warmed up, but I can't say I've paid > attention to that so much since the car runs better > after it has warmed up. When I say warmed up, I mean > the stock needle is straight up, but my VDO water temp > gauge says 120F or so. > > any ideas on this? > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 05:40:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Thoeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mark Distelhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: E36 325i question - OBD1 O2 sensor & MPG needle Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No, I'm not throwing any codes (only the 1444 terminating code). Pete --- Mark Distelhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My E30 with an M50 has developed the swinging RPM > needle as you described. I > previously had a bad O2 sensor but did not have the > swinging RPM needle so > I'm not sure if that is the cause. > > Are you throwing any codes? > > Mark > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Thoeming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "uucdigest" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:56 PM > Subject: [UUC] E36 325i question - OBD1 O2 sensor & > MPG needle > > > > Did I hear a while back that a wavering MPG needle > can > > be a sign of a dying O2 sensor? > > > > When my car first starts up and has not yet warmed > up, > > it runs badly when the R's run between 2-3K. > > > > Also, when driving at a constant speed, I often > notice > > the MPG needle bouncing back and forth in a > > square-wave type fashion. > > > > I don't think I've seen the needle bouncing as > much > > after the car has warmed up, but I can't say I've > paid > > attention to that so much since the car runs > better > > after it has warmed up. When I say warmed up, I > mean > > the stock needle is straight up, but my VDO water > temp > > gauge says 120F or so. > > > > any ideas on this? > > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 06:22:35 -0700 (PDT) From: P Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Will M Coupe wheels fit on an E36 sedan? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Does anyone know if M Coupe wheels/tires will fit on an E36 sedan (1996 328i) with the stock suspension? Thanks, Paul 96 328i 03 G35 98 Panoz AIV __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:28:48 -0400 From: Ben Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Will M Coupe wheels fit on an E36 sedan? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MZ3 (coupe or roadster) front wheels are a standard E36 size at 7.5 x 17 w/41mm offset. MZ3 rear wheels are unique to the MZ3 at 9 x 17 w/8mm of offset and would maybe fit onto an E34 or E32 but will not fit on an E36 without likely massive fender rolling, since they're at least an inch farther out than the effective offset of around 30mm which people run 9" wheels with. Ben Paul wrote: > Does anyone know if M Coupe wheels/tires will fit on > an E36 sedan (1996 328i) with the stock suspension? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:37:58 -0400 From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E36 325i question - OBD1 O2 sensor & MPG needle Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The mpg meter is not directly related to the O2 sensor. The mpg meter is moved by the DME, which is reporting fuel consumption. So, indirectly, the O2 sensor is related to the meter. However, the O2 sensor also has nothing to do with how the engine runs when cold. It takes up to 3 or 4 minutes before the O2 sensor comes on line, so cold rough running is indicitive of another problem, usually an air leak or a bad coolant temp sender. It could also be a defective fuel injector or pressure regulator. During this rough running stage, the DME will be varying fuel input in an attempt to stabilize the idle. As the mpg meter is run from a algorithm of fuel injector duty cycle, known (assumed) fuel pressure and vehicle speed, it will bounce around as the duty cycle is changed by the DME. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > Did I hear a while back that a wavering MPG needle can > be a sign of a dying O2 sensor? > > When my car first starts up and has not yet warmed up, > it runs badly when the R's run between 2-3K. > > Also, when driving at a constant speed, I often notice > the MPG needle bouncing back and forth in a > square-wave type fashion. > > I don't think I've seen the needle bouncing as much > after the car has warmed up, but I can't say I've paid > attention to that so much since the car runs better > after it has warmed up. When I say warmed up, I mean > the stock needle is straight up, but my VDO water temp > gauge says 120F or so. > > any ideas on this? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:03:00 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: <E30> Convertible Suspension Choices Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bill Gosma confirmed that he ran Eibach springs and Bilstein Sports on his 325iC. The ride height was lowered some, but the ride was more pleasant than my '90 325i on M3 springs with basically the same shocks. Great compromise suspension for a street car. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA ----- Forwarded by Scott D Miller/MSQ/Oak/BART on 07/08/2005 08:57 AM ----- Yeah, you're correct........ I had Eibach ProKit lowering springs and Bilstein sport shocks-----nice setup. Bill Gosma -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 4:28 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: <E30> Convertible Suspension Choices >Keeping the ride height reasonably high is a good thing for a daily >driver. Yes. Bill Gosma put some, I think they were, Eibach springs on his '88 convertible. His goals were the same as Paul's, and he really liked the results. (Bill, did I get this right?) >Gary Derian Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:55:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: E30 Eibach springs FS was <E30> Convertible Suspension Choices Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ahem, well then, since those there Eibachs are getting such a glowing review.... For sale! A set of Eibach Prokits. $150 + shipping from 48034. They're in excellent shape. Carlos. (more stuff for sale to follow) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Bill Gosma confirmed that he ran Eibach springs and Bilstein Sports > on his > 325iC. The ride height was lowered some, but the ride was more > pleasant > than my '90 325i on M3 springs with basically the same shocks. Great > compromise suspension for a street car. > > Scott Miller > GGC BMW CCA __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:14:10 -0700 From: Peter B Du Bois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Redline SL1 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brett, Is there any particular reason that you are not using Mobil 1? Peter Brett Anderson wrote; We are trying both Amsoil and Royal Purple. Both are much more realistically priced, have great reputations and great support. Brett Anderson KMS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:01:00 -0400 From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Redline SL1 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No-one delivers Mobil 1, but both Amsoil and Royal Purple get delivered with no freight charge. Thanks Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > Brett, > > Is there any particular reason that you are not using Mobil 1? > > Peter > > Brett Anderson wrote; > > We are trying both Amsoil and Royal Purple. Both are much more > realistically priced, have great reputations and great support. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 20:06:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: <E36> For sale E36 325 front rotors, E36 M3 front calipers, E36 M3 radiator Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> New E36 325 front rotors (Balo): $75 + shipping Used E36 M3 front calipers (recently rebuilt): $200 + shipping. For an additional $50 I can install a set of bronze bushings. New E36 M3 radiator: $150 + shipping Shipping from 48034 -Carlos. 88 325is 98 M3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(11 messages) **********
