The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 692 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: <E34> 525i Slugfest Re: <E34> 525i Slugfest Re: 12x1.0mm bolt M30 engine Re: 12x1.0mm bolt M30 engine Re: Reprogramming DME Re: <E34> window trim oxidation Re: E30 OBC (13-button) Re: [bmwuucdigest] topside oil change Re: [bmwuucdigest] topside oil change Re: [bmwuucdigest] topside oil change Re: [bmwuucdigest] topside oil change Carfax expires soon! Re: Heat Cycling Toyo RA-1s Re: topside oil change Re: topside oil change
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:36:52 -0500 From: "Paul Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: <E34> 525i Slugfest Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Still more questions on our 1995 525it with 87kmiles. Now that the heat of the summer is on us, SWMBO is complaining that if the AC is on, she can't outrun a moped across an intersection. Now I know that E34 525's are not exactly legendary for their acceleration and that the automatics are even worse, but it does seem kinda sluggish. FWIW, the car runs perfectly, very smooth, no misses or other BS, it just seems leisurely at best. I just did the air filter, plugs, oil change, transmission service, and fuel injector cleaner. I'm guessing this is just the nature of the beast and further speculating that someone is this auspicious group has already figured out what if anything can be done. Have other 525ia owners chipped their cars with noticeable effect? Does the autobox just suck the life from the car? Do other 525i owners notice a significant change with the AC on? I guess I should have bought the M3 touring that Eric B built... Regards, Paul Craven 1995 525it slowpoke 1993 325ic happy to win a dragrace for once ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:38:19 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Paul Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <E34> 525i Slugfest Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> They are slow. Measure some 0-60 runs and report back. Gary Derian > Still more questions on our 1995 525it with 87kmiles. Now that the heat > of the summer is on us, SWMBO is complaining that if the AC is on, she > can't outrun a moped across an intersection. Now I know that E34 525's > are not exactly legendary for their acceleration and that the automatics > are even worse, but it does seem kinda sluggish. FWIW, the car runs > perfectly, very smooth, no misses or other BS, it just seems leisurely > at best. I just did the air filter, plugs, oil change, transmission > service, and fuel injector cleaner. I'm guessing this is just the nature > of the beast and further speculating that someone is this auspicious > group has already figured out what if anything can be done. Have other > 525ia owners chipped their cars with noticeable effect? Does the > autobox just suck the life from the car? Do other 525i owners notice a > significant change with the AC on? I guess I should have bought the M3 > touring that Eric B built... > > Regards, > Paul Craven > 1995 525it slowpoke > 1993 325ic happy to win a dragrace for once > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:45:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: 12x1.0mm bolt M30 engine Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Howdy, On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Tammer Farid wrote: > http://www.mcmaster.com I just looked there for him... No M12x1.0 bolts of any sort that I can find... Looks like ARP has something though... http://www.arp-bolts.com/media/pdf_files/arp2004nu_prods.pdf (Honda Flywheel bolt kits). Give ARP a call and see what they've got? Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:56:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: 12x1.0mm bolt M30 engine Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yep, I just posted the link as they *usually* have what you want. I didn't take the time to go find it myself (or I would have posted a more specific product link). -tammer --- Mark Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Howdy, > > On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Tammer Farid wrote: > > http://www.mcmaster.com > > I just looked there for him... No M12x1.0 bolts of any > sort that I can > find... > > Looks like ARP has something though... > > http://www.arp-bolts.com/media/pdf_files/arp2004nu_prods.pdf > (Honda Flywheel bolt kits). > > Give ARP a call and see what they've got? > > Mark > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder > of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of > the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:48:27 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Reprogramming DME Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Jun 13, 2005, at 11:12 AM, Maverick wrote: > Slow interface. The interface that our cars use all seem to be > slow. I have the AutoEnginuity software for OBDII and I know that > the bottleneck in the speed for feedback is the interface. If our > cars were that slow thinking we would be in trouble. It's probably not just the interface. Writing to serial flash memory is pretty slow itself. - Mark ----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:19:47 -0700 From: "JS Nord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] Subject: Re: <E34> window trim oxidation Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This worked for me... - The trim has some sort of plastic coating on it that seems to fail causing the "oxidation". You can usually get it to come off with your fingernail. - To recover the finish, you need to get the plastic off and then polish the metal again. - I had really good luck using Mother's aluminum polish. Seems to remove the last of the coating and polish the metal as well. Once the coating is gone, you'll need to do this every 6 months or so to keep the finish up. - How you do it is more the trick. If you do it while in the car, you need to carefully tape off the black trim as the polish gets in the grooves and you end up with this lovely white residue everywhere. - I think the real fix is this. Remove the trim parts from the car, polish them and then recoat them with some clear finish. I haven't done this as it's a bit of a PITA to pull the trim out. Likely do it next time I have the panels out of the car. Or, maybe just order some new ones...they might be pretty cheap. Hope this helps, Jeff 90 535i >From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [UUC] <E34> window trim oxidation >Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:31:50 -0700 (PDT) > >Dunno if it changed on the E34, but on the E28 most >window-surround brightwork is anodized aluminum. I know of >no product that will bring it back once it gets oxidized >and chalky. > >A plant that chromes, zinc-plates, and otherwise coats >metals can remove the anodized coating and apply a new one, >but I believe this is rather pricey. > >Alternatively, you can paint it all black with satin black >trim paint (there's an SEM number that's a perfect match >for factory shadowline), and have that M-car look. > >-tammer > >--- Paul Craven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I have been slowly getting our "new" 1995 525it into > > shape and have > > finally reached the point of considering appearances. > > This car came to > > me with the bright trim around the windows on the outside > > and the small > > bright strip on the inside base very dull and oxidized > > looking. I'd > > like to clean this up as it makes the whole car look old. > > Has anyone > > freshened thses strips up with success? Are the strips > > metal or are > > they somehow coated with plastic? I tried a bit of metal > > polish and had > > no luck, so I tried some McGuiars (sp?) plastic polish > > that works well > > on my ic window, but still no luck. Any miracle cures out > > there? > > > > Regards, > > Paul Craven > > 93 325ic and a somewhat dingy 95 525it > > > > Search the > > >ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder > > of the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of > > the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > > > >__________________________________ >Discover Yahoo! >Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! >http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:10:07 -0400 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: E30 OBC (13-button) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If both cars are 6 cylinder (they are), and both have the same size injectors (they do) and the same size fuel tank (they do) you are all set. Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Ed's advice brings up question I didn't know I needed to ask. We will soon >replace the 13 button OBC from the 325is parts car into his 325i with the >limited function OBC (both E30's). Do we need to replace the coding plug of >the "iS" OBC with the original "i" plug? > >-Kevin > > > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:29:36 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] topside oil change Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Seriously, it's a question of doing the job right. The right reason to change oil is to remove contaminants primarily, and "tired" oil (depleted additives) secondarily. Most of the particulate contamination settles to the bottom of the pan. Picture that your topside oil changer is like a straw. Now picture what contortions, cup-angling and shaking, and other things you have to do to get the last bit of milkshake out of a cup using a straw you can maneuver within a cup you can examine. Now do you really think the blind topside oil changer is getting out all the junk at the bottom of the pan? Not to mention that a proper under-car oil change gives you the opportunity to inspect other under-car components. Oil changing is one of those things that you do right, or have done right. No alternatives. I simlpy don't see the point in doing it half-assed unless, as I jestingly noted, you really don't care about the car in the long-term sense. But maybe that's the way things are going with all the new-car marketing of "lifetime" trans/diff fluids and absurdly long oil change intervals. The reality of those service intervals, as has been seen in many owner reports recently, is decreased component life and vaseline-like sludge in the pan. Nobody, including the owners, wants the cars to last much beyond the warranty period. Call me "old school", but I feel any of my BMWs are "in my care", not so much "consummables" but rather "maintainables"... at such time that the car no longer has a place in my garage, I'll know it will have a continuation of it's life and service with another owner of the same values. - Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carey Probst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [UUC] [bmwuucdigest] topside oil change > So Rob, tell us how you really feel. > > Seriously, what do you have against topside changers. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:38:35 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] topside oil change Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've never seen sludge on the bottom of an oil pan in an engine with reasonably timely oil changes, even at nearly 200K miles. If there is no sludge in the head, there is no sludge in the pan. Gary Derian > Seriously, it's a question of doing the job right. > > The right reason to change oil is to remove contaminants primarily, and > "tired" oil (depleted additives) secondarily. > > Most of the particulate contamination settles to the bottom of the pan. > Picture that your topside oil changer is like a straw. Now picture what > contortions, cup-angling and shaking, and other things you have to do to > get > the last bit of milkshake out of a cup using a straw you can maneuver > within > a cup you can examine. Now do you really think the blind topside oil > changer is getting out all the junk at the bottom of the pan? > > Not to mention that a proper under-car oil change gives you the > opportunity > to inspect other under-car components. > > Oil changing is one of those things that you do right, or have done right. > No alternatives. I simlpy don't see the point in doing it half-assed > unless, as I jestingly noted, you really don't care about the car in the > long-term sense. But maybe that's the way things are going with all the > new-car marketing of "lifetime" trans/diff fluids and absurdly long oil > change intervals. The reality of those service intervals, as has been > seen > in many owner reports recently, is decreased component life and > vaseline-like sludge in the pan. Nobody, including the owners, wants the > cars to last much beyond the warranty period. Call me "old school", but I > feel any of my BMWs are "in my care", not so much "consummables" but > rather > "maintainables"... at such time that the car no longer has a place in my > garage, I'll know it will have a continuation of it's life and service > with > another owner of the same values. > > - Rob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carey Probst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [UUC] [bmwuucdigest] topside oil change > > >> So Rob, tell us how you really feel. >> >> Seriously, what do you have against topside changers. > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:40:17 -0400 From: "Rosario DeCicco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] topside oil change Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Maybe he wanted to be just like Griot's Garage and claim the 73 911rs he has still runs perfect by doing this. The only time topside oil change should be done is if you have a bad drain plug, but then again I wouldn't drive the car. Rosario -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 6:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] [bmwuucdigest] topside oil change Seriously, it's a question of doing the job right. The right reason to change oil is to remove contaminants primarily, and "tired" oil (depleted additives) secondarily. Most of the particulate contamination settles to the bottom of the pan. Picture that your topside oil changer is like a straw. Now picture what contortions, cup-angling and shaking, and other things you have to do to get the last bit of milkshake out of a cup using a straw you can maneuver within a cup you can examine. Now do you really think the blind topside oil changer is getting out all the junk at the bottom of the pan? Not to mention that a proper under-car oil change gives you the opportunity to inspect other under-car components. Oil changing is one of those things that you do right, or have done right. No alternatives. I simlpy don't see the point in doing it half-assed unless, as I jestingly noted, you really don't care about the car in the long-term sense. But maybe that's the way things are going with all the new-car marketing of "lifetime" trans/diff fluids and absurdly long oil change intervals. The reality of those service intervals, as has been seen in many owner reports recently, is decreased component life and vaseline-like sludge in the pan. Nobody, including the owners, wants the cars to last much beyond the warranty period. Call me "old school", but I feel any of my BMWs are "in my care", not so much "consummables" but rather "maintainables"... at such time that the car no longer has a place in my garage, I'll know it will have a continuation of it's life and service with another owner of the same values. - Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carey Probst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [UUC] [bmwuucdigest] topside oil change > So Rob, tell us how you really feel. > > Seriously, what do you have against topside changers. Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:24:13 +0000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] topside oil change Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not to tell everyone to convert their dipstick tube oil suckers to milkshake pumps, the oil sucker could be used after most of the oil has drained through the oilpan plug to then suck the residual sludge out from the further reaches of the bottom of the pan that a finger in a rag can't get to. (kinda like in a liposuction motion maybe? lol) Barry > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:29 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [UUC] [bmwuucdigest] topside oil change > Seriously, it's a question of doing the job right. > The right reason to change oil is to remove contaminants primarily, and > "tired" oil (depleted additives) secondarily. > Most of the particulate contamination settles to the bottom of the pan. > Picture that your topside oil changer is like a straw. Now picture what > contortions, cup-angling and shaking, and other things you have to do to get > the last bit of milkshake out of a cup using a straw you can maneuver within > a cup you can examine. Now do you really think the blind topside oil > changer is getting out all the junk at the bottom of the pan? > Not to mention that a proper under-car oil change gives you the opportunity > to inspect other under-car components. > Oil changing is one of those things that you do right, or have done right. > No alternatives. I simlpy don't see the point in doing it half-assed > unless, as I jestingly noted, you really don't care about the car in the > long-term sense. But maybe that's the way things are going with all the > new-car marketing of "lifetime" trans/diff fluids and absurdly long oil > change intervals. The reality of those service intervals, as has been seen > in many owner reports recently, is decreased component life and > vaseline-like sludge in the pan. Nobody, including the owners, wants the > cars to last much beyond the warranty period. Call me "old school", but I > feel any of my BMWs are "in my care", not so much "consummables" but rather > "maintainables"... at such time that the car no longer has a place in my > garage, I'll know it will have a continuation of it's life and service with > another owner of the same values.> - Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:35:25 -0500 From: "Mike VanAmburgh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Carfax expires soon! Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My Carfax account expires in 2 days. If you need/want a VIN(s) ran, send 'em! Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:38:56 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Heat Cycling Toyo RA-1s Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Years ago when I worked at BFG we analyzed the Formula V. It was mostly diesel oil. Try some bleach also. Perhaps gasoline or acetone would swell up the rubber. Seriously, these products soften the rubber, but softened rubber is not the same as originally soft rubber. If it works, use it. Gary Derian > Kevin wrote: > >>Maybe Gary can weigh in on this.... but a diluted solution of bleach will > provide the same result as the Formula V. It's the solution applied to the > ground on the dragster's burn out box. > > ____________ > > Hmmmm.... :-) Ok, this has now totally piqued my attention. I was just > about to order a gallon of Formula V. How well does dilute bleach work? > Comparably? What's the concentration to use? Anyone? Or should I just > go > for the Formula V? > > Thanks! > > vty, > > --Dennis > > > > > > . > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:41:55 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]>, "Dennis Wynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: topside oil change Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What is the difference between an SUV and a rental car? The rental car can be driven anywhere. Gary Derian > > Now RENTAL cars, EVERYONE abuses those :-) > > Dennis > 01 M5 silver/black (for sale) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:06:32 -0400 From: Dave Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: topside oil change Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >What is the difference between an SUV and a rental car? >The rental car can be driven anywhere. > >>Now RENTAL cars, EVERYONE abuses those :-) "There's lots of argument about what kind of car drives best. Some say a front-wheel drive car. Some say a rear-wheel drive. I say it's a rental car. There are things you can do with a rental car that are just impossible with any other kind of vehicle." "How To Drive Fast On Drugs While Getting Your Wing-Wang Squeezed Without Spilling Your Drink", the essential guide to irresponsible driving P.J. O'Rourke ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
