The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 663 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Track pads Re: Track pads Re: Track pads Re: BMW's Machine to Convert Loyalty to Disillusionment Re: BMW's Machine to Convert Loyalty to Disillusionment <OT> Antenna question How to retain brake heat Re: How to retain brake heat Re: How to retain brake heat Re: How to retain brake heat Re: How to retain brake heat e90 - new oil program Re: e90 - new oil program Re: e90 - new oil program Re: e90 - new oil program
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:13:02 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Track pads Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Interesting, Carey. Have you thought about improving the ducting? Cheapest and best way to get better performance from brakes! vty, --Dennis -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Probst Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 4:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] Track pads A couple thoughts here. 1. I was running Pagid stock brakes on a modified E30 325e 2. A non M E30 has tiny front and rear pads 3. Up until my previous school, instructors tended to let me get away with being slow but accurate because "your car is slow" 4. New instructor last school (same as this school by request) didn't blame the car but pushed me to drive at the car's potential. Keeping momentum and smoothness. 5. A non M E30 has really tiny front and rear pads 6. With new instructor I have gone from being regularly lapped to being passed and picked up about 20mph by the busstop. 7. Brake cooling is not the greatest on a 325e so the pads greatly overheated. Could smell them more than normal as speed increased and I had to brake harder. Pad size, cooling, speed and technique all affect pad wear. Tiny stock pads are not compatible with higher speed track work. I ordered a set of Carbotechs for the next school and will see how they last and wear. Was torn between them and the Hawks but the spring special including a set of rotors for not much more than the pads alone pushed me to them. Will know after next session but guess I've finally graduated from stock pads. Carey > >Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:37:35 -0400 >From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[email protected]> > > >In all of these events, I've never used a full set of pads on any car. > >In fact, with the 996, the current rotors are the ORIGINAL rotors (40k >miles), with dozens of track days (between NHIS, LRP, WGI, and a few >other tracks tossed in). I did go through the original fitment pads, >and am probably 3/4 of the way through the PFC-97s. On the 355, new >PFCs will last me through an entire driving season, easily. And the >massive setup on the Challenge car? Though I only got it recently, I >haven't seen ANY wear on the brakes. > >I consistently outbrake almost everyone else (hey, not to sound too >arrogant, believe me, I lose my braking advantage in lots of other >places!), but don't have nearly the wear on the brakes. In one >illustrative event, with completely equal 355s at LRP, running the same >number of sessions, a friend went through an entire set of pads and >made measureable wear on the rotors, while I barely wore enough of the >pad out to notice any difference. > >So, am I just luckier? Any these cars just better ducted so that the >pads don't wear as much? Or does technique really matter that much? > >Thoughts? > >vty, > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 15:02:15 -0700 From: Brian Ghidinelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Track pads Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dennis Liu wrote: > Interesting, Carey. Have you thought about improving the ducting? Cheapest > and best way to get better performance from brakes! True, but all the ducting in the world will be hard pressed to save a well-driven car from overheating stock brakes. I think he'll be pleased with the race pads which are meant for the higher temps he's going to see with increased speeds. Brian -- Brian Ghidinelli > http://www.MotorsportReg.com MotorsportReg.com processes online registration and payment for your track, autocross and social events ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 18:45:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Brian Ghidinelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Track pads Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Brian Ghidinelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > True, but all the ducting in the world will be hard pressed to save a > > well-driven car from overheating stock brakes. I would suggest doing like Dennis and dumping the E30 and picking up a used 360 Challenge car, a 996TT or maybe a crappy 355. Your braking problems may not be an issue anymore after that. :-P Carlos. 88 325is __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 21:06:46 -0400 From: Dave Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: BMW's Machine to Convert Loyalty to Disillusionment Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Neil Maller wrote: >Here's an interesting little article about user interface >design I stumbled over that discusses the 7's iDrive: >http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20040315.html Interesting. As technology improves and becomes more of a commodity, usability will become more of a discriminator between products. Ability to design an intuitive user interface will become a lucrative skill. BMW iDrive may serve as a good example of how NOT to introduce a new product. Dave Meyer 99 M coupe (traditional user interface) Stafford VA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:00:17 -0500 From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: BMW's Machine to Convert Loyalty to Disillusionment Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, new 5 series owners talk about what "load" their car is on currently. Then you read where Toyota Prius owners are complaining that their cars "crashed" (the computer, anyway). The line between computer and car is about a blurry as it gets now, but I think the "Car geeks" need to get with the "computer geeks" on a user interface class. I drove a couple of new 7s and I could never figure out how to tune to my favorite radio station (which was not a preset). Now I was driving the car at the time, but still - I have worked in the computer field since 1979 doing everything from field service to software design to programming and I could not figure it out. How do they expect the 7 target audience (typically much old and less tech savvy than me) to get it? The BMW interface engineers should each be given one of the new Acura RLs to drive for a while. What a nice system and fully integrated and within minutes it is simple to use. To bad it is in a $50k v-6 with a small back seat. BTW, if nothing else in the RL you can say "FM 100 point 1" and get the station without taking your hands off the wheel. Dennis 01 M5 silver/black (for sale) At 09:06 PM 05/18/2005 -0400, you wrote: >Neil Maller wrote: >>Here's an interesting little article about user interface >>design I stumbled over that discusses the 7's iDrive: >>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20040315.html > >Interesting. As technology improves and becomes more of a commodity, >usability will become more of a discriminator between products. Ability to >design an intuitive user interface will become a lucrative skill. BMW iDrive >may serve as a good example of how NOT to introduce a new product. > >Dave Meyer >99 M coupe (traditional user interface) >Stafford VA > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 19:40:21 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: <OT> Antenna question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Does anyone (Vaughn) know if the impedance matching for the older BMW antenna systems is done in the headunit or externally at the power antenna in the fender? And yes, the smaller antenna connection is for an IM signal that the diversity antenna uses for reference. -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 20:42:41 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: How to retain brake heat Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For all those times your calipers just don't warm up enough http://tuner01.com/products.htm <sigh> Marco ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 23:51:49 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: How to retain brake heat Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For all those times your calipers just don't warm up enough > > http://tuner01.com/products.htm > > <sigh> > > Marco Hmm, I wonder what they will come up with for my rear drum brakes.... :-/ Later, Rich ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 23:55:17 -0400 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: How to retain brake heat Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I wonder how long BMW will allow them to use the roundels. Ed Marco Romani wrote: >For all those times your calipers just don't warm up enough > >http://tuner01.com/products.htm > ><sigh> > >Marco >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 21:11:25 -0700 From: Alex Koreneff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: How to retain brake heat Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Why buy it from a no-name website, when you can buy it from bavauto? Seriously, I saw it in their latest catalog and my jaw dropped. At least they arent selling body-colored dust shields. Marco Romani wrote: > For all those times your calipers just don't warm up enough > > http://tuner01.com/products.htm > > <sigh> > > Marco ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 00:16:15 -0400 From: "Eric Benjamin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: How to retain brake heat Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Next thing you know they'll provide hot air intakes and pre-greased tires! Eric-->getting used to my new V8 rice/toaster/car, but it doesn't have caliper covers...yet;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:42 PM Subject: [UUC] How to retain brake heat > For all those times your calipers just don't warm up enough > > http://tuner01.com/products.htm > > <sigh> > > Marco > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 21:59:29 -0700 From: Norm Reini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: e90 - new oil program Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This evening I happened to be at an event with a good friend who is a BMW tech (at one of the two dealerships in town). He indicated that the new e90's do not have dip stick and the only way for him to check the oil level is to physically hook the vehicle up to the shop computer. The systems must some how alert the driver if oil needs to be added. I have also heard that if BMW could, they would like to eliminate the oil filter and potentially go to a sealed engine with no oil change (similar to the transmission and rear end). Has the oil technology improved that much in the last couple of years. I believe it was Brett who posted pictures of a newer BMW, where the customer had followed BMWs oil change interval and the car had significant sludge build up. Thoughts? -norm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 22:07:22 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: e90 - new oil program Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On May 18, 2005, at 9:59 PM, Norm Reini wrote: > Has the oil technology improved that much in the last couple of > years. I believe it was Brett who posted pictures of a newer BMW, > where the customer had followed BMWs oil change interval and the > car had significant sludge build up. http://www.justracing.com/bmw/viewtopic.php?t=12 http://www.justracing.com/bmw/viewtopic.php?t=22 - Mark ----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 23:10:07 -0700 From: David Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: e90 - new oil program Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 21:59 -0700, Norm Reini wrote: > Has the oil technology improved that much in the last couple of years. > I believe it was Brett who posted pictures of a newer BMW, where the > customer had followed BMWs oil change interval and the car had > significant sludge build up. > > Thoughts? Years ago I bought a '86 Toyota MR2 and Toyota was saying it only needed oil changes ever 8-10K. I asked my father what he thought about that and he told me "Well, Toyota is in the business of selling new cars, why would they want your old one to last forever?". Pretty much sums it up IMO. Dave "likes to check my oil" Thomas ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 09:36:27 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Norm Reini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: e90 - new oil program Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Its a combination of oil technology and engine technology. I know many people who never check their dipsticks. The oil lever indicator works pretty well, until it fails. Many tests have shown that 15,000 mile oil change intervals are just fine, although I don't push my oil that far. 7500 to 10,000 seems a good interval for synthetic. Engine sensors also can sense the actual oil condition these days. Gary Derian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm Reini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 12:59 AM Subject: [UUC] e90 - new oil program > This evening I happened to be at an event with a good friend who is a BMW > tech (at one of the two dealerships in town). > > He indicated that the new e90's do not have dip stick and the only way for > him to check the oil level is to physically hook the vehicle up to the > shop computer. The systems must some how alert the driver if oil needs to > be added. > > I have also heard that if BMW could, they would like to eliminate the oil > filter and potentially go to a sealed engine with no oil change (similar > to the transmission and rear end). > > Has the oil technology improved that much in the last couple of years. I > believe it was Brett who posted pictures of a newer BMW, where the > customer had followed BMWs oil change interval and the car had significant > sludge build up. > > Thoughts? > > -norm > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
