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  Carfax please
  Re: <misc> independant in Tampa area?
  Re: Flywheel for and E36?
  Re: Flywheel for and E36?
  Re: Flywheel for and E36?
  Re: Flywheel for and E36?
  Re: Flywheel for and E36?
  <E30> Door lock mechanism

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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 08:28:16 -0400
From: "Aziz Meruani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Carfax please
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

If anyone has an open Carfax account, I would appreciate a report on:
VIN WAUAC28D3YA039022

My cousin is looking at a 2000 A4 1.8T, I tried to convince him to get
an e36 in that price range, but he seems to like the A4. Anything to
look out for would be appreciated. Going to get it inspected at an
independent shop, but Carfax would be nice too.

http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details.aspx?vlotid=554299&adid=5285661

Thanks.

-Aziz

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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 08:44:09 -0400
From: "John Sabatini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: <misc> independant in Tampa area?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Any recomendations for a good independant in the Tampa Bay area?

Highly recomend Rennen Imports on Kennedy Avenue in Tampa.  They are located 
at 1917 Kennedy Blvd and their phone number is 813-876-0606.  Great guys and 
very fair.  They have done a lot to my little Bimmer, routine maintenance, 
and serious suspension upgrades.  Tell Steve or Kyle I sent you.

Another good shop is Cars & Concepts in Drew Park.  Their number is 
813-348-6183.

John Sabatini
Odessa, FL
'90 325is
'87 911 Carrera
'01 Volvo V70 T5



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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 09:36:00 -0400
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Flywheel for and E36?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

on 10/5/06 7:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Anyon know of flywheels from other models that will work on an E36 //M3?
> Barry

on 10/5/06 7:38 AM, Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Not sure about the flywheel, but I do know that if done right the M5 clutch
> fits.

The E34 M5 single mass steel flywheel (P/N 11 22 1 312 491) bolts right up
to an E36 M3. It weighs 12.7 lbs vs 22.7 lbs for the 3.2 (or 29.4 lbs for
the 3.0). However its ring gear count is off by one tooth, preventing proper
engagement of the starter. Therefore you'd have to recover the ring gear
from an original flywheel and have it installed on the M5 unit. You then
couple this with the E34 M5 pressure plate and sprung hub clutch.

That's fine if you have the time, facilities and inclination, although I
don't suppose there are a whole bunch of E34 M5's lying around in junkyards
waiting to donate their organs cheaply.

Of course UUC Motorwerks <http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/> already sells an
engineered solution incorporating their aluminum flywheel plus a choice of
E34 M5 fitment clutches and pressure plates.

I have this setup and it's very nice.

Neil
Fort Wayne, IN
96 M3      - Bastard child
03 525iT   - Sterling Grey Metallic
05 Mini    - Cooper S with LSD





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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 10:48:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Flywheel for and E36?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Since it's the E34M5 flywheel Neil states is the one to use, there's no
fundamental reason one couldn't use the early E28 M5 flywheel in place of
the E34 M5 flywheel with the proper ring gear as Neil has pointed out.
Just like the E34M5, one isn't going to find a large quantity of E28 M5s
in the yards. However all pre 1/84 533i used the S38B35 flywheel. IIRC,
all 633i and 733i of the same vintage also used this flywheel. FWIW: The
S38B35 flywheel weighs about 7.2Kg, slightly heavier than the S38B36
flywheel as used in the E34 M5.

Another possibility would be to use the single mass flywheel from an
M30B34 and have it lightened and the proper ring gear pressed on during
this process. The single mass flywheels can be lightened to about 10 lbs
total weight.

All of these flywheels use a 240mm clutch disk, which is what the S38B36
(E34 M5)unit is.

HTH

Rich
'85 Euro M5 "Garage Queen"
'86 535iA "DD"
'06 Cooper S "Momma's Toy"



> on 10/5/06 7:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Anyon know of flywheels from other models that will work on an E36 //M3?
>> Barry
>
> on 10/5/06 7:38 AM, Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Not sure about the flywheel, but I do know that if done right the M5
>> clutch
>> fits.
>
> The E34 M5 single mass steel flywheel (P/N 11 22 1 312 491) bolts right up
> to an E36 M3. It weighs 12.7 lbs vs 22.7 lbs for the 3.2 (or 29.4 lbs for
> the 3.0). However its ring gear count is off by one tooth, preventing
> proper
> engagement of the starter. Therefore you'd have to recover the ring gear
> from an original flywheel and have it installed on the M5 unit. You then
> couple this with the E34 M5 pressure plate and sprung hub clutch.
>
> That's fine if you have the time, facilities and inclination, although I
> don't suppose there are a whole bunch of E34 M5's lying around in
> junkyards
> waiting to donate their organs cheaply.
>
> Of course UUC Motorwerks <http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/> already sells an
> engineered solution incorporating their aluminum flywheel plus a choice of
> E34 M5 fitment clutches and pressure plates.
>
> I have this setup and it's very nice.
>
> Neil
> Fort Wayne, IN
> 96 M3      - Bastard child
> 03 525iT   - Sterling Grey Metallic
> 05 Mini    - Cooper S with LSD
>
>
>
>
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>



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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 12:33:43 -0400
From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Flywheel for and E36?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

One thing you're overlooking is stack height.  The dimensional requirements
within the bellhousing, specifically slave to crank plane, are different
between M50 and M30 configurations.  This critically affects the ability of
the slave to engage/disengage the clutch.

Pressing off the M50 starter ring and fitting it to the M30 flywheel is
likewise far from a simple proposition.

Basically, if it was possible to do this, someone would have done it 15
years ago when the first M50-equipped vehicles were released.

As Neil pointed out, UUC already offers a perfect "direct fit" E34 M5 clutch
conversion setup for all M50/S50 series powertrains, and at a cost of at
least $100 less than a new BMW E34 flywheel:

http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/flywheel/LFWLE36SH.htm

If you're not looking for aluminum, we are about to release a steel version
with added mass specifically for turbo applications that want the M5 clutch
while still retaining drivetrain load for boost development.

- Rob

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [UUC] Flywheel for and E36?


> Since it's the E34M5 flywheel Neil states is the one to use, there's no
> fundamental reason one couldn't use the early E28 M5 flywheel in place of
> the E34 M5 flywheel with the proper ring gear as Neil has pointed out.


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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 13:11:38 -0400
From: "Ben Keyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Flywheel for and E36?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I had the single-mass flywheel from an early (pre-9/83) 528e on the
OBD-I 3.2l S52 which was in my E30.  looking at the notes from the
build, it included the starter from the 528e as well, I dunno whether
that's something which can be done on an E36 or not.  it used an
E30 clutch & pressure plate too.

so perhaps my mixture of parts isn't as useful for a normal E36 application.

the 528e part (11 22 1 273 153) seems to be unique to that application,
but perhaps it's called by a different name in another use.



Ben


On 10/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Since it's the E34M5 flywheel Neil states is the one to use, there's no
> fundamental reason one couldn't use the early E28 M5 flywheel in place of
> the E34 M5 flywheel with the proper ring gear as Neil has pointed out.
> Just like the E34M5, one isn't going to find a large quantity of E28 M5s
> in the yards. However all pre 1/84 533i used the S38B35 flywheel. IIRC,
> all 633i and 733i of the same vintage also used this flywheel. FWIW: The
> S38B35 flywheel weighs about 7.2Kg, slightly heavier than the S38B36
> flywheel as used in the E34 M5.
>
> Another possibility would be to use the single mass flywheel from an
> M30B34 and have it lightened and the proper ring gear pressed on during
> this process. The single mass flywheels can be lightened to about 10 lbs
> total weight.
>
> All of these flywheels use a 240mm clutch disk, which is what the S38B36
> (E34 M5)unit is.

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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 14:07:24 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Flywheel for and E36?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Heck I might be interested in that steel one when it comes out if my dual-mass 
ever gives up...I am running an M3 dual-mass flywheel/clutch/preasure plate in 
my 318ti M44/stock gearbx setup.  That was the best I could get the dealer to 
do when he replaced my gearbox.

I don't think I want extra light aluminum with my mini-torque motor, but a bit 
lighter than stock and without that blood dual-mass would be nice.

David Ellsworth
Richmond, VA 

-----Original Message-----
>From: Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Oct 5, 2006 12:33 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [UUC]  Flywheel for and E36?
>
>One thing you're overlooking is stack height.  The dimensional requirements
>within the bellhousing, specifically slave to crank plane, are different
>between M50 and M30 configurations.  This critically affects the ability of
>the slave to engage/disengage the clutch.
>
>Pressing off the M50 starter ring and fitting it to the M30 flywheel is
>likewise far from a simple proposition.
>
>Basically, if it was possible to do this, someone would have done it 15
>years ago when the first M50-equipped vehicles were released.
>
>As Neil pointed out, UUC already offers a perfect "direct fit" E34 M5 clutch
>conversion setup for all M50/S50 series powertrains, and at a cost of at
>least $100 less than a new BMW E34 flywheel:
>
>http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/flywheel/LFWLE36SH.htm
>
>If you're not looking for aluminum, we are about to release a steel version
>with added mass specifically for turbo applications that want the M5 clutch
>while still retaining drivetrain load for boost development.
>
>- Rob
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:48 AM
>Subject: Re: [UUC] Flywheel for and E36?
>
>
>> Since it's the E34M5 flywheel Neil states is the one to use, there's no
>> fundamental reason one couldn't use the early E28 M5 flywheel in place of
>> the E34 M5 flywheel with the proper ring gear as Neil has pointed out.
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 18:26:13 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: <E30> Door lock mechanism
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


In trying to solve the issue of why the key doesn't turn in the E30, I
thought I'd also remove and inspect the door lock mechanism. However, I
couldn't get the three phillips screws in the door to loosen. Any thoughts
on how to do this? I think I'll try a heat gun next time and then cooling
it. I also have an impact screw driver that I'll try.

-Kevin




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