Hi Carol, Thanks. I'll keep this in mind though. I suspect we're a lot alike in that I too often write very quickly and am usually in too much of a hurry. *smile* Cheers, Donna
> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Carol Pearson > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 11:27 AM > To: Tom Lange; Braillenote List > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Data loss > > > Hi, > > I've only lost files a couple of times and this, I do > believe, has been > because I'm a very fast writer and have been in too much of a hurry. > > I too have kept backups so only lost a few minutes' work at the most. > > I wouldn't be without my BN! <Smiles> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Lange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 2:47 PM > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Data loss > > > > Hi Donna, > > I've been using BrailleNotes since 2002 and have found that > data loss > > as > > described by Mary Ellen occurs much less frequently now > than when I first > > started using BrailleNotes. Several years ago it used to > happen with some > > regularity, but I've only lost one file in the last year. Memory > > management seems to be much better. To safeguard against > this type of > > data loss, I avoid using the internal flash disk and I > create and store > > all files on compact flash or SD cards. > > > > The BrailleNote does have a backup utility which works > quite well in > > my > > experience. > > > > Tom > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Donna Goodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 4:28 AM > > Subject: [Braillenote] Data loss > > > > > >> Hi Chris, Mary, and all, > >> > >> Actually, Chris, I have to strongly disagree. though what you say > >> about > >> PCs is true, that happense *very rarely. If the BN > frequently loses > >> data, especially if there's been no crash of the device, > that is an > >> unacceptable flaw. If you can't mostly rely on your > device to preserve > >> data, why bother owning it in the first place. > >> > >> I currently use a competitor's product--the one that came > out in fall > >> of > >> 2003. I can't say I *never lose data, but if I do, it's > because the unit > >> has locked up and a cold reset must be performed, so I > know that any data > >> that hasn't been backed up is lost. I'm on this list because I was > >> considering purchasing a BN. If what Mary Ellen describes > is a pervasive > >> problem with these units, I think that just took the BN > right off the > >> table for me. I'll tolerate lots of bugs in a product, but > data loss is > >> definitely not one of them. > >> Best, > >> Donna > >> P.S. I also you Sprite Backup with my current unit. I > know the BN has > >> some kind of backup feature, at least I think it does. It > would be a > >> good thing if that program could allow you to back up your > data to a > >> storage card. > >> -----Original Message----- > >>>From: "Chris Hallsworth"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>Sent: 8/7/07 5:01:28 AM > >>>To: "Mary Ellen Earls"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Braillenote > >>>List"<[email protected]> > >>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Comments: > >>> > >>>Mary, sorry to hear you've lost your document, but consider this. > >>>Sometimes > >>>computers can have glitches, one of which is to lose work that you > >>>thought > >>>you last saved. There are a handful of reasons why this > would be the > >>>case, > >>>power failure being one of them. So I guess it's the same with the > >>>BrailleNote; the operating system, Windows CE/Keysoft, > must have glitches > >>>in > >>>them that occur from time to time, and one of these is to > erase a whole > >>>document despite you saved it. So my advice? Consider > backing up the > >>>document to some removable device, so that should you lose > it you've > >>>always > >>>got a backup. Also Mary, did this issue happen on a > classic or an mPower? > >>>As > >>>I say I am sorry to hear what's happened, but it's just > one of these > >>>things > >>>and therefore I hope from this message you'll take my advice and > >>>hopefully > >>>never lose a document again. I hope this helps. > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Mary Ellen Earls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]> > >>>Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:39 AM > >>>Subject: [Braillenote] Comments: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Well let me first say that I hope somewhere along the line > >>>> Humanware > >>>> will > >>>> start addressing the issue of these machines loosing > huge amounts of > >>>> material. I am even talking about material which has > specifically been > >>>> saved and the machine just kicks it out. The strange > thing is that the > >>>> document is still there but absolutely no text is there. > It is like > >>>> someone went in went to the top of the document and on a > bt pressed > >>>> space > >>>> d and space dots 1 4 and the whole document disappeared > To me that is > >>>> more > >>>> important than anything because I lost 28 pages today > never to recover > >>>> them again. I even tried the save and recover feature to > no avail. > >>>> This has been a problem with the Braille Note since I > have had one in > >>>> 2002. > >>>> And I am extremely surprised this has not come up more > often but it has > >>>> not. > >>>> Secondly as far as batteries are concerned, if some of you will > >>>> remember > >>>> Fs came out in about 2003 or very early 2004 with a > pacmate Braille & > >>>> Speak which had a user replacible battery. Ok they went > back and did a > >>>> total makeover of the machine which came out in the fall > of 2004 and > >>>> guess > >>>> what? The battery was not user replacible. Why? Because > there had been > >>>> numerous problems with the earlier model of the pacmate > Bns because of > >>>> that user replacible batteries. > >>>> I have no doubt technology has come a long way since > then and I too > >>>> would > >>>> love to change my battery out but we have to realize hw > can only pack > >>>> so > >>>> much in an upgrade at any given time and they have only > so many people > >>>> in > >>>> development. > >>>> In a perfect world there would be that one perfect machine with > >>>> everything > >>>> for everyone but alas, this is 2007 the world is not a > perfect world > >>>> and > >>>> now you have myriads of machines out there to choose > from, so you do > >>>> not > >>>> like the features of one machine, go to its competitor > and perhaps you > >>>> will find what you want from them. > >>>> Mary Ellen Earls > >>>> > >>>> ___ > >>>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > >>>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to > >>>> the list as well. > >>>> > >>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>>___ > >>>Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > >>>If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the > >>>list as well. > >>> > >>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > >> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the > >> list as well. > >> > >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > >> > > > > > > ___ > > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > > copy to the list as well. > > > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/bra> illenote > ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. 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