Rhonda;
Terri Pannit had said she thought HW might have done this deliberately
so we would have to use the new version of Braille.  That is why I put
her first name in the message, trying to convince her to give HW a
second chance.  It would be illeagle for them to do something like that.
This might be duxberry's falt, who knows.  We need to give HW a chance
to solve the problem. 
Terry Powers

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhonda Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 2:05 PM
To: Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Subject: RE: [Braillenote] List of current bugs found under KeySoft
7.5.17

Terry, in Richard's message, no where does he say Humanware is 
forcing us to use a new version.  He states that it should have 
been tested better.  Humanware isn't forcing us to do anything.  
Where are you getting information that we are being denied use of 
Grade Two Braille?  It is information like this that people 
quote, and is totally not accurate.



> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "Richard Ring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Kevin Chao" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Alex Parks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Joseph 
Lee" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[email protected]>, 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:43:43 -0400
>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] List of current bugs found under 
KeySoft 7.5.17

>Great message Richard!  Sure wish you had been a tester this 
time.
>Sounds like you need to help out with the next upgrade.  I always 
hold
>off on upgrading just because of the fear of bugs in the 
software.  I do
>not know what the problem is with grade 2, but HW has no right to 
force
>us to use the new version of Braille.  It was clearly stated that 
it
>would be an option.
>Terri and others, give HW some time to correct the problem before 
asking
>for a refund.  Please think about it.  They could be in big 
trouble if
>they denied us the use of grade 2 braille.

>Terry Powers


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Richard Ring [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 2:33 PM
>To: Kevin Chao; Alex Parks; Joseph Lee; 
[email protected];
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] List of current bugs found under 
KeySoft
>7.5.17

>I haven't upgraded as of yet, and these discussions are making it 
appear
>rather unlikely that I will until some of these issues are 
addressed.  I
>must, however, state the following.
>I have beta tested software off and on for about 11 years.  I 
have
>exchanged ideas and attempted to duplicate bugs, as well as 
discover
>bugs of my own.  My question is this.  How on Earth could the 
HumanWare
>beta testers have missed these Braille translation errors?  Were 
only QT
>users involved in the testing?  Certainly not.  I simply feel 
strongly
>that the core of beta testers are simply not representative 
enough of
>the Braillenote using population.  Do you all remember when 7.2 
was
>released?  Do you remember that the PK joystick was rendered 
useless?
>How on Earth can such things be missed?  When you beta test, 
you're
>supposed to pound on each and every aspect of a product.  
Certainly it
>is true that Keysoft presents a true challenge to beta testers, 
in that
>it is a fairly complex piece of software.   But such blatant 
Braille
>translation errors simply shouldn't have been missed.   It is 
true that
>there can be small bugs that somehow get past the developers and 
the
>beta testers.  However Braille  translation errors of this 
magnitude do
>not constitute small bugs in my opinion.    I firmly believe that 
to do
>effective beta testing, you must use a good variety of 
individuals who
>use their Braillenotes and Voicenotes to accomplish a wide array 
of
>tasks.  It does not seem to me that this software was beta tested
>thoroughly enough, and this is not something that reflects well 
on
>HumanWare!

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