Oh on the first technique use the backflush insert in the PF not the brew
basket.

On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Barry Luterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Two other methods for removing the screen gasket combination are to:
> 1. Lock PF in place turn on pump . as pressure builds remove PF handle. The
> assembly will pop out. If you wait till pressure builds too much you will
> not be able to remove the PF.
> 2. For real brittle burnt in gaskets. First you must have a replacement on
> hand.this process will ruin the existing gasket. Screw two wood screws
> partially into the rubber gasket 180 degrees apart. *Make sure you do not
> go through the gasket to the copper head. *You do not want to mar the
> group head. Now pull down on each screw alternately till gasket comes out.
> This method is advised only for real problem baked in gaskets
>   On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Ben McCafferty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Kitt knows his stuff.  A couple of other things to consider.
> >
> > As your gasket gets older, it will become brittle and it's pretty easy to
> > chip pieces off it.  I try to keep an extra gasket and screen around.
> > Personally I have never had good luck with prying against the gasket, and
> > pry (very gently) against the chrome edge of the screen instead.  The
> screen
> > has a slight flare at the open end (up), which tends to take the gasket
> with
> > it when it comes out.
> >
> > If you forget which way the gasket goes in, all but the newest of gaskets
> > will have a permanent dent from contact with the PF, and this obviously
> goes
> > down.
> >
> > Best of luck,
> > bmc
> > "Faith will move mountains, but you'd better bring a shovel....."
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: Kitt Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> >> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:13:44 -0400
> >> To: <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: Cleaning frenzy
> >>
> >>
> >> I was hoping somebody else would respond, but here in Boston (my
> location
> >> this week) it's Saturday morning ... the official Brewtus cleaning time;
> so
> >> I guess we had better get you started.
> >>
> >> 0.  Go look at the pictures of parts (the manual or Ben's little URL (
> >> http://tinyurl.com/5xkgua )  Notice that the screen look like a skinny
> >> filter basket with fat holes
> >>
> >> 1.  Start with a cold machine  (hot just makes the parts tighter and
> harder
> >> to hold).
> >>
> >> 2.  Get some tools and a pencil and paper for notes to yourself.  (A
> stiff
> >> narrow butter knife with metal that will not quickly bend ... or
> something
> >> comparable, a screwdriver or pry bar is an acceptable alternative.  I've
> >> even used the handle of a soup spoon and other odds-and-ends that were
> at
> >> hand.)
> >>
> >> 3.  Stand in front of the machine, curl your right palm up into a half
> fist
> >> and put your forefinger up into the underside of the group-head at about
> >> 5:00 as you look down at the top.  You will feel the groove that the PF
> fits
> >> into and the "notch that is "extra" open so that you can fit the PF lugs
> >> into the grooves.  This is where you will start trying to pry down the
> >> gasket and basket together.  But first, just feel the quarter inch thick
> >> stiff black rubber gasket that comes down the outside of the silver
> metal
> >> skinny filter basket shaped thingy.  You are not trying to take the
> rubber
> >> off the silver basket ... you are trying to pull the basket part so it
> >> slides down the group head projection that you can see clearly in the
> >> picture labeled "pre-flush"  http://tinyurl.com/5xkgua)  ... it's just
> held
> >> in place around the group head projection by friction (and a tight fit.)
>  It
> >> is going to be very tight the first four or five times you do this
> exercise,
> >> but it does get easier (and the longer you go between cleanings, the
> harder
> >> it is to slide the basket off.)  It doesn't need to be very tight
> because it
> >> is held in place by the PF when you are pulling a shot.
> >>
> >> 4.  Insert your pry object into the gap at about a 30 degree angle so it
> >> will reach up and grab into the top of the rubber.  (There is a little
> ridge
> >> in the metal around the bottom of the skinny filter basket thingy that
> you
> >> can see, you can also use this to pry on if you get REAL frustrated
> trying
> >> to get a good grip on the top of the gasket, but you are probably going
> to
> >> scratch it up; so try to go with the more difficult rubber gasket
> approach
> >> for a while first..)  (At this time, you will probably vow to get a
> little
> >> pry bar with a tip bent at about 30 degrees the next time you are at
> Sears
> >> or Home Despot.)
> >>
> >> (5.  Pause and reassure yourself that you can always order another
> shower
> >> screen and gasket if you screw up and you can usually even use your
> machine
> >> while waiting for the new parts.)
> >>
> >> 6.  Get gasket basket unit to slide down about a half millimeter.  Then
> go
> >> to the opposite side of the group head and repeat the process through
> the
> >> other lug gap to get an equal amount down.  (Notice that it is harder to
> >> work back there.)  Then go back to the first position and get another
> >> millimeter advance  ... and repeat the pattern about three times.  By
> then,
> >> if you reach up with fingers and grab the whole unit, it will feel
> "wobbly"
> >> and you can just pull it down.
> >>
> >> 7.  After pulling it off, set it down with the screen side down on the
> >> counter.  Put the forefinger and thumb of both hands on the rubber
> gasket
> >> and push it  down to the counter so it separates from the basket.
>  CAREFULLY
> >> NOTE THAT ONE EDGE IS SLIGHTLY ROUNDED ... Write down whether that edge
> is
> >> up near the group-head or down near the drip tray.
> >>
> >> 8.  After cleaning things up as much as you feel like this first time,
> slip
> >> the gasket back on the basket and, holding the gasket, slip the unit
> back up
> >> into place firmly ... but do not expect it to go all the way.  Next, get
> a
> >> PF and use this to push the basket up further until you can get the lugs
> in
> >> place.  Then tighten the PF and it will drive the Screen back into the
> >> proper snug fit.
> >>
> >> 9.  Walk around the house for a few minutes feeling that you are one hot
> >> dude!
> >>
> >> 10. Put your tools away.
> >>
> >> I can't remember if the rubber ever slid down off the basket while I was
> >> first doing this, but if it does, just use the metal ridge to pull the
> >> basket down and review point 5 above.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "David Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> Can you offer really remedia instructions on this? I just can't figure
> >>> out the first step to remove the gasket. But i know my screen is
> >>> gunky!
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > >
> >
>

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