A large channel-lok pliers will hold the boiler, but I don't think you can
tighten the heater up without removing the boiler. That, too is a bastard
size like 36 mm or 1-7/16". It's a large size for the average toolowner.
My boiler leaked from abottom plug, not the heater element, and yes it
occurred from descaling the machine. After the initial problems (leaks) were
solved they never came back. I would expect the same with any brand machine
I do not overfill the steam boiler with solution, although that is a good
idea.
I do not remove the thermowell t/c wire from the boiler - rather disconnect
the wire at the control box side.
Dennis 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of mariowar
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:53 AM
To: Brewtus
Subject: Re: Leak



Dennis,

Any tips to sucessfully tighten the element's nut without removing the
boiler?

On the other hand any tips for removing the remove the brew boiler?
Any parts that usually break during the process...

Do you think that he descaling process had anything to do with the leak?  I
never had one before.


Thanks
On Mar 1, 12:42 pm, "Dennis Keating" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Mariowar,
> There is no gasket req'd for the heater element.If you can just 
> tighten it enough to stop the leak that would be the simplist.
> The brew boiler is just hanging in place by the big thermosyphon upper 
> and lower tubes going to the g/h. If you don't have a good hold on the 
> boiler, you will tweak the plumbing and the position of the boiler. I 
> got leaks too, and removed the boilers from the machine to work on things.
> I bought a large channel lok to hold the boiler when tightening or 
> removing anything threaded.
> Dennis
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf
>
> Of mariowar
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 3:35 AM
> To: Brewtus
> Subject: Re: Leak
>
> John, the only thing that I did different was to drain the brew boiler 
> ( through the group)while I was draining the steam boiler.
>
> I have a Vibe Pump and I always made sure that I would run it for 
> about 45 seconds  and a 45 second rest.
>
> I am stil able to pull shots, however, as soon as the element on the 
> brew boiler kicks in, it leaks through the element nut. Obviously, 
> while I am pulling a shot it gets worst.
>
> I am just trying to understand what went wrong in the descaling
process.....
> and I wonder if the heating element has a gasket....
>
> My machine is 14 months old and WLL warranty expired and they have 
> been very nice. The good news is that I have an extended warranty 
> through American Express and I could have it fixed here in Houston .
> Therefore, I want to make sure if in order to remove the element, the 
> boiler has to be removed from the machine because if that is the case 
> I would rather to get a new boiler.....
>
> The heating element is very hard to tighten or remove the because I 
> have to hold the boiler at the same time. I even unsucessfully tried 
> with an of oil wrench  holding it.....
>
> My machine also has those big holes under both boilers, however, ths 
> situation would be the same. How to securely hold the boiler while you 
> try either to remove or tighten the heating element?
>
> On Feb 27, 4:57 pm, mariowar <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I descaled my Brewtus III  with Dezcal following John Brinkman's 
> > instructions :
>
> > Steam Boiler
> > At operating temp
>
> > 1. Switch machine off
> > 2. Open water tap to remove as much water as possible from steam 
> > boiler, close tap again 3. Disconnect water level sensor (pull the 
> > wire off) 4. Open steam wand 5. Turn machine on, takes quite a while 
> > for the pump to fill up the steam boiler, water will start coming 
> > out of the steam tip when it is full 6. Switch off machine 7. 
> > Reconnect water level sensor 8. Switch machine on 9. Leave at 
> > operating temp for 1hr 10. repeat
>
> > However, on step # 2 I  Also got water out  the group ( intervals of 
> > 1 minute), until no more water got out draining the brew boiler 
> > too..............
> > On step 5, after turning the machine on , after around 30 seconds 
> > there was a burn rubber smell for about 10 seconds, the the auto 
> > fill kicked and I continued  the descaling process.
> > At the end I run some of the water ith descaler through the brew 
> > head and I noticed that it had way less scale than the steam bolier 
> > which had around 2  8 ounce glasses of yellow water until the water 
> > became cristal clear.
>
> > At the end I got a leak underneath the brew boiler's element ( 
> > around the nut)....
> > Could be the element's gasket?   I wonder if it is possible to take 
> > the element out without taking the boiler out of the machine........
>
> > Have you experienced something like it?
>
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