Hi Cindy,
Having just installed a PID in my B2 today, I can say with confidence that the 
PID is reading temp at the boiler.  It has a thermowell in the top of the 
boiler and a short wire to the PID unit.

You can read about many experiments with temp probes inside the PF, etc. on 
homebarista and I think some here too.  The idea with our machines is that the 
group will be close to the temp of the boiler (thermosiphon), but you'll still 
get some cooling.  You'll find that it's relative though--you'll raise or lower 
the boiler temp until you find one that you like, so the actual temp at the PF 
won't matter--you'll know what works for your taste and coffee.  Does that make 
sense?  It is an interesting subject though.

best,
bmc

On Mar 12, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Cindy Goddard wrote:

> Hello everyone!
> 
> Just placed an order from WLL on Friday as well as a Baratza Vario
> grinder.  I'm very excited and nervous since this is my first espresso
> set-up.
> 
> I have some fresh beans from Red Bird and have ordered a tamper, also
> a bottomless portafilter so I can learn about my extractions plus some
> other goodies.  So I think I'm ready for the big day!
> 
> Is the PID set to show the temperature at the group?  I have also read
> that some other machines that have a PID is actually the boiler
> temperature being shown and that they have to learn what the true
> temperature is at the grouphead since it will cool during extraction.
> I want to make sure that the Brewtus PID is showing the grouphead temp
> and not the boiler.  I'm a little confused on this issue.
> 
> Not sure what kind of user manual will be in the machine, but if there
> is anything I should know that the manual may not mention, I would
> love to hear it.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated from all of
> you.
> 
> Thanks
> Cindy :)
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