That all makes sense. Keep us posted! Best, bmc Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 5, 2015, at 09:11, herman dickens <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks for the info. According to the controller it never goes beyond 96 and > it's set for 94. I replaced the controller a few years ago and it shows the > overshoot that the original didn't. I haven't had the steam relief or the > one on the boiler pop. I know the steam is stopping where it's set but that > would probably be more a function of the pressurestat anyway. I'll keep my > eye on it though. I have it all on a timer. It comes on at 4 am and turns off > at 8 pm. that way anytime I want to use it I have it available. Hopefully > Todd will be able to tell whats wrong with the switches I am returning. I > knew that if I tied the two wires together everything heat up so my old > switch could still be "frozen" closed. > >> On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Hey Herman, >> You may recall I went through a bunch of gyrations with my B2 this summer, >> including these switches. My machine is of similar vintage to yours, maybe >> one or two years newer. I wanted to mention that the over limit switch >> probably is supposed to have the red plastic button in the middle where the >> hole is. In my case, that plastic had become extremely brittle and when I >> touched it it turned to dust. Like you, I used a paperclip to try to reset >> it, and was greeted with a pretty significant spark and it tripped my arc >> fault breaker. In your case, it makes me wonder whether the over limit >> switch that you have is perhaps malfunctioning, i.e. the points are welded >> together or something like that after you reset it. This would essentially >> render the switch inoperable and its protection would no longer be there. No >> clue really, just thinking out loud and wanted to mention this in case you >> are in an unsafe situation now that everything is "working normally" again. >> My thinking goes something like this: your old switch tripped because of >> overheat or perhaps overcurrent, when you put in the new ones, whatever the >> fault is burned them out right away, when you reset the old one perhaps it >> fused and is not showing the symptom that it should. Again, just a guess but >> might be worth checking into.I believe you should have line voltage across >> that switch so you could always check with a multimeter on the two wires >> without the switch in place. Perhaps check temperature on the boilers also, >> since that is what this which protects against. I would also look at the >> wires to and from the switches to be sure they haven't vibrated through >> their insulation and causing a ground fault. >> I will say that my scenario seems unlikely, because I think if you were over >> temperature you would probably be also overpressure and causing your >> pressure blowoff to trip on the top of the steam boiler. >> Really curious to see how it goes, and talk soon. >> Best, >> bmc >> >> Sent from my apple IIe >> >>> On Oct 5, 2015, at 07:56, Todd Salzman <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> If they tripped within a couple of minutes the boiler never had a chance to >>> get hot enough to make them trip due to temperature. >>> >>> Yes, if you can send them to me that would be great. >>> >>> Please send them to: >>> >>> Whole Latte Love >>> Todd Salzman: Personal No RMA >>> 100 Ajax Rd >>> Rochester, NY 14624 >>> >>> Include a note with it and reference order number: 1619628 >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Todd >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 10:48 AM, herman dickens <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> How long after the machine was turned on did it trip? Within a couple of >>>> minutes >>>> Did you see what the steam pressure gauge was when it tripped? I'm sorry >>>> but I didn't >>>> Was the machine making any strange sounds? No strange sounds >>>> Was there anything else unusual about the way the machine was acting? >>>> There was a burning smell. I at first thought that my controller was >>>> burning up. >>>> >>>> How old is the machine and which version? It was one of the very first >>>> BII's It was ordered in November of 2005 so it's almost 10 years old. >>>> >>>> If you like I could send the two that I have back and you could check them >>>> also before you send the new ones out. I'm in no rush since it's all >>>> running fine now. If you want me to send them back give me the shipping >>>> address and I'll try to get them in the mail today. >>>> Herman >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Todd Salzman <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Hmmmm. The two we sent you are brand new, are the correct part and we >>>>> have not had any complaints about them being bad. To have two be >>>>> defective would be really strange. >>>>> >>>>> How long after the machine was turned on did it trip? >>>>> Did you see what the steam pressure gauge was when it tripped? >>>>> Was the machine making any strange sounds? >>>>> Was there anything else unusual about the way the machine was acting? >>>>> >>>>> How old is the machine and which version? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am going to hold up your shipment and test the two I am going to send >>>>> you for a couple of days in a brand new machine that we are prepping. >>>>> This way I will know for sure that these two are fine and that may help >>>>> us diagnose the problem if they do trip when you get them. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Todd >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 10:28 AM, herman dickens >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> <IMG_20150914_172313914.jpg><IMG_20151005_101828584.jpg><IMG_20151005_101901078.jpg>The >>>>>> This is what I received. I put the first one in and the boiler started >>>>>> heating and it popped. When I reset it the boiler didn't heat. The >>>>>> second one did the same thing. Both times there was a burning smell. >>>>>> Then I looked at the old switch and realized there was a hole in it so I >>>>>> pushed a paper clip in and it clicked. I put it back in and it's been >>>>>> working fine since then. The old one in the pic is the original limit >>>>>> switch that I reset through the hole in the top. Thanks >>>>>> Herman >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Todd Salzman >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Ben, thanks for copying me in on this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Herman, I'm sorry about the delay. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have been out of town since Thursday afternoon in are with limited >>>>>>> cell coverage and no internet so that is why I did not respond to this >>>>>>> until today. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The parts are going out today. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I checked our parts bin and all high limits in it are perfectly normal. >>>>>>> So this is pretty strange and I very much would like to hunt down the >>>>>>> error in our parts department. Can you please send me a picture of the >>>>>>> part you received? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks very much. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Todd Salzman >>>>>>> Whole Latte Love >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Benjamin McCafferty >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Copying Todd. >>>>>>>> best, >>>>>>>> bmc >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my apple IIe >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 07:16, herman dickens <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just wanted to bring everybody up to speed. I ordered the switches on >>>>>>>>> aug 28, WLL said they had them in stock and would ship them right >>>>>>>>> out.A week goes past and nothing. I called them back and they had one >>>>>>>>> digit off on my cc so they didn't ship, or call! I got the parts >>>>>>>>> ordered and when they came in both switches were bad. I noticed my >>>>>>>>> old limit switch had a hole in the top instead of a button so I used >>>>>>>>> a paper clip to reset it, should have done that in the beginning, and >>>>>>>>> everything has worked fine since then.I emailed WLL about the parts >>>>>>>>> on 9/11 and didn't get a reply until the 14th. Maggie asked for a >>>>>>>>> picture of the old limit switch and said it was very unusual to have >>>>>>>>> 2 bad switches. I sent her the picture that day and didn't get a >>>>>>>>> reply. I have sent 4 additional replies, each on a few days apart and >>>>>>>>> still have not had a reply from WLL. I'm hoping Todd will see this >>>>>>>>> and respond. >>>>>>>>> Herman >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 1:57 PM, herman dickens >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Thanks again.Parts were in stock and should ship today. Should have >>>>>>>>>> them monday or tuesday. >>>>>>>>>> Herman >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Benjamin McCafferty >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hey Herman! WLL has them, here's the part number: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> EX10200110 >>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>> bmc >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my apple IIe >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 08:43, herman dickens >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all. There's a reset switch on top of the steam boiler with a >>>>>>>>>>>> little red button. My switch is broken. Does anyone have the part >>>>>>>>>>>> number? Does someone keep the parts in stock? 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