Will do. On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ben McCafferty <[email protected]> wrote:
> That all makes sense. Keep us posted! > Best, > bmc > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 5, 2015, at 09:11, herman dickens <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks for the info. According to the controller it never goes beyond 96 > and it's set for 94. I replaced the controller a few years ago and it shows > the overshoot that the original didn't. I haven't had the steam relief or > the one on the boiler pop. I know the steam is stopping where it's set but > that would probably be more a function of the pressurestat anyway. I'll > keep my eye on it though. I have it all on a timer. It comes on at 4 am and > turns off at 8 pm. that way anytime I want to use it I have it available. > Hopefully Todd will be able to tell whats wrong with the switches I am > returning. I knew that if I tied the two wires together everything heat up > so my old switch could still be "frozen" closed. > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hey Herman, >> You may recall I went through a bunch of gyrations with my B2 this >> summer, including these switches. My machine is of similar vintage to >> yours, maybe one or two years newer. I wanted to mention that the over >> limit switch probably is supposed to have the red plastic button in the >> middle where the hole is. In my case, that plastic had become extremely >> brittle and when I touched it it turned to dust. Like you, I used a >> paperclip to try to reset it, and was greeted with a pretty significant >> spark and it tripped my arc fault breaker. In your case, it makes me wonder >> whether the over limit switch that you have is perhaps malfunctioning, i.e. >> the points are welded together or something like that after you reset it. >> This would essentially render the switch inoperable and its protection >> would no longer be there. No clue really, just thinking out loud and wanted >> to mention this in case you are in an unsafe situation now that everything >> is "working normally" again. My thinking goes something like this: your >> old switch tripped because of overheat or perhaps overcurrent, when you put >> in the new ones, whatever the fault is burned them out right away, when you >> reset the old one perhaps it fused and is not showing the symptom that it >> should. Again, just a guess but might be worth checking into.I believe you >> should have line voltage across that switch so you could always check with >> a multimeter on the two wires without the switch in place. Perhaps check >> temperature on the boilers also, since that is what this which protects >> against. I would also look at the wires to and from the switches to be >> sure they haven't vibrated through their insulation and causing a ground >> fault. >> I will say that my scenario seems unlikely, because I think if you were >> over temperature you would probably be also overpressure and causing your >> pressure blowoff to trip on the top of the steam boiler. >> Really curious to see how it goes, and talk soon. >> Best, >> bmc >> >> Sent from my apple IIe >> >> On Oct 5, 2015, at 07:56, Todd Salzman <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> If they tripped within a couple of minutes the boiler never had a chance >> to get hot enough to make them trip due to temperature. >> >> Yes, if you can send them to me that would be great. >> >> Please send them to: >> >> Whole Latte Love >> Todd Salzman: Personal No RMA >> 100 Ajax Rd >> Rochester, NY 14624 >> >> Include a note with it and reference order number: 1619628 >> >> Thanks >> >> Todd >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 10:48 AM, herman dickens <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> How long after the machine was turned on did it trip? Within a couple of >>> minutes >>> Did you see what the steam pressure gauge was when it tripped? I'm sorry >>> but I didn't >>> Was the machine making any strange sounds? No strange sounds >>> Was there anything else unusual about the way the machine was acting? >>> There was a burning smell. I at first thought that my controller was >>> burning up. >>> >>> How old is the machine and which version? It was one of the very first >>> BII's It was ordered in November of 2005 so it's almost 10 years old. >>> >>> If you like I could send the two that I have back and you could check >>> them also before you send the new ones out. I'm in no rush since it's all >>> running fine now. If you want me to send them back give me the shipping >>> address and I'll try to get them in the mail today. >>> Herman >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Todd Salzman <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hmmmm. The two we sent you are brand new, are the correct part and we >>>> have not had any complaints about them being bad. To have two be defective >>>> would be really strange. >>>> >>>> How long after the machine was turned on did it trip? >>>> Did you see what the steam pressure gauge was when it tripped? >>>> Was the machine making any strange sounds? >>>> Was there anything else unusual about the way the machine was acting? >>>> >>>> How old is the machine and which version? >>>> >>>> >>>> I am going to hold up your shipment and test the two I am going to send >>>> you for a couple of days in a brand new machine that we are prepping. This >>>> way I will know for sure that these two are fine and that may help us >>>> diagnose the problem if they do trip when you get them. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Todd >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 10:28 AM, herman dickens < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> <IMG_20150914_172313914.jpg><IMG_20151005_101828584.jpg><IMG_20151005_101901078.jpg>The >>>>> This is what I received. I put the first one in and the boiler started >>>>> heating and it popped. When I reset it the boiler didn't heat. The second >>>>> one did the same thing. Both times there was a burning smell. Then I >>>>> looked >>>>> at the old switch and realized there was a hole in it so I pushed a paper >>>>> clip in and it clicked. I put it back in and it's been working fine since >>>>> then. The old one in the pic is the original limit switch that I reset >>>>> through the hole in the top. Thanks >>>>> Herman >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Todd Salzman < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ben, thanks for copying me in on this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Herman, I'm sorry about the delay. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have been out of town since Thursday afternoon in are with limited >>>>>> cell coverage and no internet so that is why I did not respond to this >>>>>> until today. >>>>>> >>>>>> The parts are going out today. >>>>>> >>>>>> I checked our parts bin and all high limits in it are perfectly >>>>>> normal. So this is pretty strange and I very much would like to hunt >>>>>> down >>>>>> the error in our parts department. Can you please send me a picture of >>>>>> the >>>>>> part you received? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks very much. >>>>>> >>>>>> Todd Salzman >>>>>> Whole Latte Love >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Benjamin McCafferty < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Copying Todd. >>>>>>> best, >>>>>>> bmc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my apple IIe >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 07:16, herman dickens <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just wanted to bring everybody up to speed. I ordered the switches >>>>>>> on aug 28, WLL said they had them in stock and would ship them right >>>>>>> out.A >>>>>>> week goes past and nothing. I called them back and they had one digit >>>>>>> off >>>>>>> on my cc so they didn't ship, or call! I got the parts ordered and when >>>>>>> they came in both switches were bad. I noticed my old limit switch had a >>>>>>> hole in the top instead of a button so I used a paper clip to reset it, >>>>>>> should have done that in the beginning, and everything has worked fine >>>>>>> since then.I emailed WLL about the parts on 9/11 and didn't get a reply >>>>>>> until the 14th. Maggie asked for a picture of the old limit switch and >>>>>>> said >>>>>>> it was very unusual to have 2 bad switches. I sent her the picture that >>>>>>> day >>>>>>> and didn't get a reply. I have sent 4 additional replies, each on a few >>>>>>> days apart and still have not had a reply from WLL. I'm hoping Todd will >>>>>>> see this and respond. >>>>>>> Herman >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 1:57 PM, herman dickens < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks again.Parts were in stock and should ship today. Should have >>>>>>>> them monday or tuesday. >>>>>>>> Herman >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Benjamin McCafferty < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hey Herman! WLL has them, here's the part number: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> EX10200110 >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> bmc >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my apple IIe >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 08:43, herman dickens <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all. There's a reset switch on top of the steam boiler with a >>>>>>>>> little red button. My switch is broken. Does anyone have the part >>>>>>>>> number? >>>>>>>>> Does someone keep the parts in stock? 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