WOW....good stuff Ben.

I am convinced that I need to upgrade the wand when I buy the steam tip.  I 
do not want to bugger up the threads on the existing wand as well as the 
new tip.

I tried to do everything online last night and looks like the wand is on 
backorder.  I will call today when they open and see what's up.

Many thanks and I'll keep you guys posted on the outcome.

-Tony





On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 11:59:38 PM UTC-5, bmacpiper wrote:
>
> Got sucked into a Star Wars movie (my son wanting to binge watch all six 
> before the 7th comes out in December...thank goodness we're done with the 
> prequels...)
>
> Interesting comments on the wet vs. dry foam.  I've never really paid 
> attention; maybe I'll put on the old wand and isomac and compare.  Perhaps 
> the plastic lets steam condense and the straight metal keeps it vaporized?
>
> OK, I pulled out the thread gauge and took a photo for you.  I hope it 
> comes through, not sure if the forum allows it or not.  I'll describe what 
> the parts are below the picture.
> [image: image1.JPG]
>
> OK, from left to right:  teflon washer for adapter, original B2 no-burn 
> wand, Expobar one hole, Expobar 2-hole, 0.9mm 4-hole no-burn tip , isomac 
> new 2-hole, pasquini 4-hole, no burn to regular adapter, foam knife wand, 
> foam knife tip.
>
> You will note that the no-burn wand is female threads, which is why you 
> need the adapter to use more standard tips.  The adapter threads in hard 
> the first time, but easy after that; the threads are a tiny bit different. 
>  It does not damage the wand or the adapter; old no-burn tips work just 
> fine still and you can add/remove both tips and adapter with just fingers.
>
> You'll see that the large end of the adapter looks almost identical to the 
> foam knife wand; alas, they are different.  The adapter is a metric thread 
> with 1.0 pitch; the foam knife wand is metric with 0.9 pitch.  The foam 
> knife tip goes on about 1/2 a thread before binding, and I think you'd 
> trash the adapter or the tip or both if you forced it on.  If I decide the 
> old wand is wetter (a good thing in my book except for cappucino), maybe 
> I'll pull out the tap and die set and convert the adapter to 0.9 pitch just 
> for giggles.
>
> There were also other expobar tips; I think they were pointy at the end to 
> have less of a vortex when stretching, i.e. not pulling in as much air. 
>  Never tried them.
>
> OK, there you go.  Curious to know what your wand looks like, but betting 
> it's a no-burn with female threads, yes?
>
> best,
> bmc
>
> Sent from my apple IIe
>
> On Nov 1, 2015, at 18:52, herman dickens <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
> Tony, I think it's the plastic tube that causes that but I'm not sure. 
> There's a difference for sure. I like using the no-burn wand better but I'm 
> sure, eventually, I'll remember not to grab the new wand when it's hot.My 
> machine seems to steam a lot better with the new wand and the foam is 
> definitely different. It was a big change in the right direction for me. I 
> may try to find an adaptor and go back to the no-burn wand but the adaptor 
> that I had didn't fit and I didn't want to mess up the threads on a hundred 
> dollar tip.
> Herman
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 9:39 PM, TG <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> Sounds good Herman. I have read, whether rumor or not, that the no burn 
>> wands create a wetter foam do to the inner tube???  But I have nothing to 
>> substantiate that?
>>
>> I'm excited to get my new tip and wand. 
>>
>> Thx so much again.  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 9:11 PM, herman dickens <[email protected] 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>> Tony mine is a BII and I had to replace the wand. I think you'd be better 
>> off without the no burn wand anyway. I did get the steam wand anti-scorch 
>> clip and I would recommend ordering one when you order the wand. I didn't 
>> think I needed it but after 10 years of the no-burn wand I kept grabbing 
>> the other wand and it's hot! You could call it a burn wand without the clip 
>> and that would be accurate. If your parts come in as quick as mine you'll 
>> get them by Friday. They shipped mine usps and they were here quick. Have 
>> fun.
>> Herman
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Tegespresso <[email protected] 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ben.....
>>>
>>> I do not know the exact thread of the wand.  It is the stock Brewtus IV 
>>> wand with the single hole tip.  I am assuming that I will have to buy the 
>>> wand and Foam Knife tip together.
>>>
>>> Also, I may have miss stated what I did in regard to the steaming when 
>>> the boiler is on.  As you first stated in your original post with the steam 
>>> wand off and the boiler has the red light on to go back up to temp I let it 
>>> run up to temp and turn the wand on at 1.4 bars just before the boiler let 
>>> shuts off.  I then can run the steam wand and it holds rock stead at 1.3 
>>> bars while steaming without ever burying the steam boiler.  What a great 
>>> trick.
>>>
>>> Herman.......
>>>
>>> I am in NY on the east coast.  I am used to stuff coming from the west 
>>> coast take 4-5 days shipping.  I'll order tomorrow and hopeful to get by 
>>> Friday.
>>>
>>> Lastly, watching many of Schomer's videos he recommends only stretching 
>>> until the milk reaches 100 degrees and then he buries the tip against the 
>>> side of the pitcher and rolls the milk in a clockwise motion until it 
>>> reaches 150 degrees.  As I mentioned earlier, some of his videos are a bit 
>>> dated so maybe he practices have changed a bit.
>>>
>>> I can't wait to see how the Foam Knife tip upgrade works.  I have been 
>>> disappointed for a while now and wish i upgraded sooner.
>>>
>>> Anyway.....that's the latest and thanks a bunch for all the help today.
>>>
>>> -Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 8:26:49 AM UTC-5, Tegespresso wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As many of you already know, and has been discussed ad nauseam here, I 
>>>> am struggling to get good "consistent" microfoam from my stock single hole 
>>>> steam tip.
>>>>
>>>> I've had my Brewtus IV for roughly 2-years now (absolutely LOVE this 
>>>> machine) and been practicing making good microfoam ever since.  I've done 
>>>> exhaustive searches on the internet and watched numerous Youtube videos 
>>>> and 
>>>> frankly I think it is time for a steam tip upgrade.
>>>>
>>>> To that end, I have it narrowed down to the 2-hole "new" Isomac tip, 
>>>> the Pasquini 4-hole tip and the Foam Knife 1 tip.  The Foam 1 Knife tip 
>>>> being the leader right now, but with the $100+ expensive along with a wand 
>>>> change at roughly $40 is really putting a damper on that decision.
>>>>
>>>> Sooooo, does anyone have any suggestions before I purchase an upgraded 
>>>> steam tip?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks to all that have contributed to this wonder Google Group 
>>>> and thanks in advance to anyone that can shed some light form their 
>>>> experiences with upgraded steam tip on their Brewtus machines.
>>>>
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