Yeah, I've had them come both with and without the small silver disc in the 
center; definitely prefer the ones without.  You'll like the IMS, esp with your 
VST baskets.

b

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> On Apr 4, 2016, at 11:58, herman dickens <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I replaced my screen with a "cheap" one when I was working on it a while back 
> and it doesn't work as well.
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You can boil the screen in cafiza for about half an hour or an hour to clean 
>> it.  Wait a minute, that is actually a tip from Dave B!  I stand corrected, 
>> he DID once contribute something!  Though in his usual condescending way, 
>> telling us basically that we were all stupid to be buying replacement 
>> screens for our shitty machines, which we're idiots to own in the first 
>> place.  :)
>> 
>> Anyhow, it's a good trick and will keep your precision screen in top form.
>> 
>> best,
>> bmc
>> 
>> Sent from my apple IIe
>> 
>>> On Apr 4, 2016, at 11:52, herman dickens <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Ben I'm ordering one now. I have the vst baskets and love them!
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Ben McCafferty <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> It's the ims one. 
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.chriscoffee.com/E61-Precision-Group-Shower-Screen-p/1460201.htm
>>>> 
>>>> I also got the VST baskets and tamper in a weak moment; any one of these 
>>>> (screen, basket, tamper) makes a subtle difference, but all of them 
>>>> together it's quite noticeable.  The tamper of course doesn't impact 
>>>> flavor but fits the baskets incredibly well and is a work of art that 
>>>> feels great in hand. I guess in so far as it stops edge channeling, it 
>>>> does impact flavor. 
>>>> b
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 4, 2016, at 11:43, herman dickens <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ben what screen do you use?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Somewhere along the way I learned from this list or by accident that the 
>>>>>> real secret is to remove the screen and gasket together.  I.e. pry the 
>>>>>> screen out and the gasket comes along since the screen has a lip on it.  
>>>>>> With the old screens, I disposed of them and so used a church key or 
>>>>>> screwdriver on the side of the screen--it just dented into it and got a 
>>>>>> bite (same as the oyster knife, I'm sure).  Since I bought the expensive 
>>>>>> screen, I have to be more careful (but it has a great lip on it that 
>>>>>> protrudes at the bottom), and so usually use the back/square end of a 
>>>>>> bamboo chopstick or similar.  Works a treat.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> bmc
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my apple IIe
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 4, 2016, at 11:32, herman dickens <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yeah and I'm sure that's a much better solution than a screwdriver! 
>>>>>>> Been there and hated that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 2:28 PM, EagleBoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> While I am sure that should work when you change the gasket regularly, 
>>>>>>>> mine was cemented in there.  Hard as stone.  Plus I am not keen on hot 
>>>>>>>> or cold water spewing around.  The Oyster Knife is my go to tool now.  
>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 6:53:35 AM UTC-6, herman dickens wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I've had really good luck removing them by letting brew pressure push 
>>>>>>>>> it out most of the way. I put the portafilter on, flip the lever, and 
>>>>>>>>> as the pressure builds I remove the portafilter. Water usually gets 
>>>>>>>>> under the gasket and breaks it loose. A time or two I also screwed a 
>>>>>>>>> screw into the gasket and pulled it out but mostly I've been able to 
>>>>>>>>> break it loose with water pressure.
>>>>>>>>> Herman
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 11:40 PM, EagleBoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> The tip is great for the gasket, but wrapping the blade in a towel 
>>>>>>>>>> and using the side edge on the groove in the screen/basket was best. 
>>>>>>>>>>  Would have been easier with two oyster knives.  But WAY better than 
>>>>>>>>>> a scewdriver IMHO.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 5:39:09 PM UTC-6, bmacpiper wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting!  I even have one of those. (And as luck would have it, 
>>>>>>>>>>> my first delivery of 2016 for CSA oysters is this Friday, so double 
>>>>>>>>>>> benefit!). 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have to try it--did you use it flat, i.e. Prying against the 
>>>>>>>>>>> lip of the group and the edge of the screen?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> bmc
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 16:35, EagleBoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK - I finally got around to changing the brew head gasket after, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> well, years...  The leaking portafilter finally got to me.  Plus 
>>>>>>>>>>>> worry of overstressing my pump.  Found the PERFECT tool for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> removing the gasket and screen - especially for the baked on ones. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  https://www.oxo.com/oyster-knife-356  Getting the Expobar gasket 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and new screen back in was a treat let me tell you.  On order are 
>>>>>>>>>>>> some of those Cafelat silicone gaskets.  :)
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