Could be. Maybe I’ll try again. I was as pissed about the lack of warranty as I was about the early failure. best, bmc
> On Sep 26, 2016, at 12:13, herman dickens <hermandick...@gmail.com> wrote: > > You should have better luck this time. I think they had a bad, or old, batch > and we both got unlucky. > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Ben McCafferty <bmacpi...@me.com > <mailto:bmacpi...@me.com>> wrote: > Thanks Herman. Yes, that's a vacuum breaker, and unfortunately not the cause > of my moisture. I've heard the over pressure relief go off during the day > also, and never have moisture in the cups otherwise--my machine comes on > around 4:30 and I don't get to it until 6:30 or 7 so always dry. > > Good to know re jaeger, maybe I'll try one more. > > Best, > bmc > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 26, 2016, at 09:57, herman dickens <hermandick...@gmail.com > <mailto:hermandick...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Ben I get the moisture in the cup thing for a few minutes every time my b II >> starts up but it goes away in a few minutes. It's coming from the valve in >> the top of the steam boiler that has the little o-ring in it. The valve >> opens when the steam pressure is down and then closes when it builds up. >> Every few years I have to replace that o-ring with one of the red ones and >> it works fine for another year or so. I have several if you need some. My >> steam issue is not from the opv. I'm guessing it's a vacuum breaker. I was >> having trouble with my pump not coming on last year and replaced the >> controller and it fixed it. Not sure if that's your issue but it may very >> well be. As to the pstat. I got another jager last year from Chris and it's >> been working fine. they had a new batch and both of ours that failed had old >> dates on them. Hope I helped. >> >> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Benjamin McCafferty <bmacpi...@me.com >> <mailto:bmacpi...@me.com>> wrote: >> Hey all, >> Hope you’ve had a good weekend! It seems this morning is an active day for >> the group, so might as well add my current issues with everyone else’s, and >> ask for the help of the braintrust. >> >> (B2, rotary/plumbed and PID conversions, about 8 years old I think) >> >> First, the easy one, mainly posting this for archives. I’ve noticed moisture >> in my back right cup on the warming tray a couple of times this past week, >> indicating the over pressure relief has opened on the steam boiler. Red >> flag. A couple of days ago, the steam boiler wouldn’t heat after dropping to >> .5 bar; I reversed the wires on the p-stat, but no love. Switched them back >> and it began to heat. My likely diagnosis is that it had stuck, and me >> fiddling with it caused it to un-stick, so the wire reversal didn’t yield >> anything. Working normally again now, but moisture on the cups again this >> morning, so it’s probably about to fail since it seems to be sticking in >> both positions. Sigh. About a year old, once again. So, do I buy another >> stock unit that fails quickly, or gamble another $60 on a Jaeger that will >> either last 5 years, or 90 days, and not be warrantied by Chris’ Coffee? >> Hmmm… >> >> The second problem is one I asked about a number of weeks back. The first >> symptom was that the pump would occasionally just start running, and >> continue for 60 seconds or more. This has mostly subsided, but now the pump >> will run waaaaaaaay to often, for just a second or two. At its worst, it >> will run every 30-60 seconds, for a few seconds each time. At minimum, it >> will run every few minutes. >> >> The only logical thing I can think of is that somehow the steam boiler is >> losing volume to a leak, and causing the pump to refill it. But, there are >> no leaks that I can find; no water under the machine, not even a steady drip >> from the group into the drip tray. Since I’m plumbed in, I also don’t think >> I’m pushing water backwards to the water line, but perhaps? My house >> pressure is about 50-60psi, so quite high. Since the steam boiler is set to >> about 1.5bar (about 22psi), it seems unlikely that this would be possible. >> >> I guess I did have one other idea, which was that the volume-adjustment >> rod/sensor (the one that inserts into the steam boiler, with a wire on top, >> to shut off the pump when water reaches it) might be scaled and so making a >> poor connection/ground. I doubt this, however, since I had basically no >> scale last year when everything was torn down, and I rarely de-scale the >> machine. So a year later I doubt this non-heating and highly polished piece >> has accumulated much scale, if any. >> >> Otherwise, all is working normally (except the p-stat of course). >> >> Any ideas? Is there a logic board that could be failing and causing this >> symptom? Last year, I replaced the giemme controller, the PID, the solenoid, >> temp probe, both high-limit switches, p-stat, etc. It seems unlikely that >> something electronic is the cause here, but perhaps. I did not replace the >> solid state relay, and have been told it rarely fails. But could it be the >> culprit? 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