PRESSURESTAT On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 5:47 AM, <hermandick...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you replace the internals let me know what parts you used and how it > goes. Mine is on a timer so it doesn't run at night. Mine has the vibe pump > too. Right now my power is out from the hurricane and has been since > yesterday afternoon. Not sure when I'll get power back so I probably won't > check my emails again for a while. Hope you can track down the problem. > Herman > > Sent from my android device. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Benjamin McCafferty <bmacpi...@me.com> > To: brewtus@googlegroups.com > Sent: Sat, 08 Oct 2016 7:40 PM > Subject: Re: Pressurestat and run-on pump > > Hi again to all, > > No ideas on the running pump yet, but a couple of new thoughts I’ve had. > —The drip tray is pretty full in the morning—I’ve never seen a single > drip, but it seems it’s filling. Maybe a leak in the group that’s dripping > out the bottom? Or the return pipe? > —Since the pump is running with the lever down, I’m thinking this must be > the steam boiler causing the problem, yes? In other words, the water level > dropping, and pump refilling. > > Still clueless, but thinking I’ll replace the (original, 8 year old) > internals in the group and see if that helps the situation. > > Any other ideas? Todd? > > best, > bmc > > On Sep 26, 2016, at 12:41, Benjamin McCafferty <bmacpi...@me.com> wrote: > > Yeah, it failed at 90 days, which is sort of understandable but the > reaction I got was not cool. > > Ah well. We all have a bad day I guess. > > b > > On Sep 26, 2016, at 12:40, herman dickens <hermandick...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Don't blame you with the warranty issue. Part of it may have been the age > of the part. > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Benjamin McCafferty <bmacpi...@me.com> > wrote: > >> Could be. Maybe I’ll try again. I was as pissed about the lack of >> warranty as I was about the early failure. >> best, >> bmc >> >> On Sep 26, 2016, at 12:13, herman dickens <hermandick...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> You should have better luck this time. I think they had a bad, or old, >> batch and we both got unlucky. >> >> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Ben McCafferty <bmacpi...@me.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Herman. Yes, that's a vacuum breaker, and unfortunately not the >>> cause of my moisture. I've heard the over pressure relief go off during the >>> day also, and never have moisture in the cups otherwise--my machine comes >>> on around 4:30 and I don't get to it until 6:30 or 7 so always dry. >>> >>> Good to know re jaeger, maybe I'll try one more. >>> >>> Best, >>> bmc >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Sep 26, 2016, at 09:57, herman dickens <hermandick...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Ben I get the moisture in the cup thing for a few minutes every time my >>> b II starts up but it goes away in a few minutes. It's coming from the >>> valve in the top of the steam boiler that has the little o-ring in it. The >>> valve opens when the steam pressure is down and then closes when it builds >>> up. Every few years I have to replace that o-ring with one of the red ones >>> and it works fine for another year or so. I have several if you need some. >>> My steam issue is not from the opv. I'm guessing it's a vacuum breaker. I >>> was having trouble with my pump not coming on last year and replaced the >>> controller and it fixed it. Not sure if that's your issue but it may very >>> well be. As to the pstat. I got another jager last year from Chris and it's >>> been working fine. they had a new batch and both of ours that failed had >>> old dates on them. Hope I helped. >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Benjamin McCafferty <bmacpi...@me.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey all, >>>> Hope you’ve had a good weekend! It seems this morning is an active day >>>> for the group, so might as well add my current issues with everyone else’s, >>>> and ask for the help of the braintrust. >>>> >>>> (B2, rotary/plumbed and PID conversions, about 8 years old I think) >>>> >>>> First, the easy one, mainly posting this for archives. I’ve noticed >>>> moisture in my back right cup on the warming tray a couple of times this >>>> past week, indicating the over pressure relief has opened on the steam >>>> boiler. Red flag. A couple of days ago, the steam boiler wouldn’t heat >>>> after dropping to .5 bar; I reversed the wires on the p-stat, but no love. >>>> Switched them back and it began to heat. My likely diagnosis is that it had >>>> stuck, and me fiddling with it caused it to un-stick, so the wire reversal >>>> didn’t yield anything. Working normally again now, but moisture on the cups >>>> again this morning, so it’s probably about to fail since it seems to be >>>> sticking in both positions. Sigh. About a year old, once again. So, do I >>>> buy another stock unit that fails quickly, or gamble another $60 on a >>>> Jaeger that will either last 5 years, or 90 days, and not be warrantied by >>>> Chris’ Coffee? Hmmm… >>>> >>>> The second problem is one I asked about a number of weeks back. The >>>> first symptom was that the pump would occasionally just start running, and >>>> continue for 60 seconds or more. This has mostly subsided, but now the pump >>>> will run waaaaaaaay to often, for just a second or two. At its worst, it >>>> will run every 30-60 seconds, for a few seconds each time. At minimum, it >>>> will run every few minutes. >>>> >>>> The only logical thing I can think of is that somehow the steam boiler >>>> is losing volume to a leak, and causing the pump to refill it. But, there >>>> are no leaks that I can find; no water under the machine, not even a steady >>>> drip from the group into the drip tray. Since I’m plumbed in, I also don’t >>>> think I’m pushing water backwards to the water line, but perhaps? My house >>>> pressure is about 50-60psi, so quite high. Since the steam boiler is set to >>>> about 1.5bar (about 22psi), it seems unlikely that this would be possible. >>>> >>>> I guess I did have one other idea, which was that the volume-adjustment >>>> rod/sensor (the one that inserts into the steam boiler, with a wire on top, >>>> to shut off the pump when water reaches it) might be scaled and so making a >>>> poor connection/ground. I doubt this, however, since I had basically no >>>> scale last year when everything was torn down, and I rarely de-scale the >>>> machine. So a year later I doubt this non-heating and highly polished piece >>>> has accumulated much scale, if any. >>>> >>>> Otherwise, all is working normally (except the p-stat of course). >>>> >>>> Any ideas? Is there a logic board that could be failing and causing >>>> this symptom? Last year, I replaced the giemme controller, the PID, the >>>> solenoid, temp probe, both high-limit switches, p-stat, etc. It seems >>>> unlikely that something electronic is the cause here, but perhaps. I did >>>> not replace the solid state relay, and have been told it rarely fails. But >>>> could it be the culprit? I definitely am out of my league on diagnosing >>>> this one. >>>> >>>> All best, >>>> Ben >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to brewtus+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to brewtus@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to brewtus+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to brewtus@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to brewtus+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to brewtus@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Brewtus" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to brewtus+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to brewtus@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Brewtus" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to brewtus+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to brewtus@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Brewtus" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to brewtus+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to brewtus@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Brewtus" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to brewtus+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to brewtus@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Brewtus" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to brewtus+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to brewtus@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Brewtus" group. 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