Don't blame you with the warranty issue. Part of it may have been the age
of the part.

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Could be. Maybe I’ll try again. I was as pissed about the lack of warranty
> as I was about the early failure.
> best,
> bmc
>
> On Sep 26, 2016, at 12:13, herman dickens <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> You should have better luck this time. I think they had a bad, or old,
> batch and we both got unlucky.
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Ben McCafferty <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Herman. Yes, that's a vacuum breaker, and unfortunately not the
>> cause of my moisture. I've heard the over pressure relief go off during the
>> day also, and never have moisture in the cups otherwise--my machine comes
>> on around 4:30 and I don't get to it until 6:30 or 7 so always dry.
>>
>> Good to know re jaeger, maybe I'll try one more.
>>
>> Best,
>> bmc
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2016, at 09:57, herman dickens <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ben I get the moisture in the cup thing for a few minutes every time my b
>> II starts up but it goes away in a few minutes. It's coming from the valve
>> in the top of the steam boiler that has the little o-ring in it. The valve
>> opens when the steam pressure is down and then closes when it builds up.
>> Every few years I have to replace that o-ring with one of the red ones and
>> it works fine for another year or so. I have several if you need some. My
>> steam issue is not from the opv. I'm guessing it's a vacuum breaker. I was
>> having trouble with my pump not coming on last year and replaced the
>> controller and it fixed it. Not sure if that's your issue but it may very
>> well be. As to the pstat. I got another jager last year from Chris and it's
>> been working fine. they had a new batch and both of ours that failed had
>> old dates on them. Hope I helped.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>> Hope you’ve had a good weekend! It seems this morning is an active day
>>> for the group, so might as well add my current issues with everyone else’s,
>>> and ask for the help of the braintrust.
>>>
>>> (B2, rotary/plumbed and PID conversions, about 8 years old I think)
>>>
>>> First, the easy one, mainly posting this for archives. I’ve noticed
>>> moisture in my back right cup on the warming tray a couple of times this
>>> past week, indicating the over pressure relief has opened on the steam
>>> boiler. Red flag. A couple of days ago, the steam boiler wouldn’t heat
>>> after dropping to .5 bar; I reversed the wires on the p-stat, but no love.
>>> Switched them back and it began to heat. My likely diagnosis is that it had
>>> stuck, and me fiddling with it caused it to un-stick, so the wire reversal
>>> didn’t yield anything. Working normally again now, but moisture on the cups
>>> again this morning, so it’s probably about to fail since it seems to be
>>> sticking in both positions. Sigh. About a year old, once again. So, do I
>>> buy another stock unit that fails quickly, or gamble another $60 on a
>>> Jaeger that will either last 5 years, or 90 days, and not be warrantied by
>>> Chris’ Coffee? Hmmm…
>>>
>>> The second problem is one I asked about a number of weeks back. The
>>> first symptom was that the pump would occasionally just start running, and
>>> continue for 60 seconds or more. This has mostly subsided, but now the pump
>>> will run waaaaaaaay to often, for just a second or two. At its worst, it
>>> will run every 30-60 seconds, for a few seconds each time. At minimum, it
>>> will run every few minutes.
>>>
>>> The only logical thing I can think of is that somehow the steam boiler
>>> is losing volume to a leak, and causing the pump to refill it. But, there
>>> are no leaks that I can find; no water under the machine, not even a steady
>>> drip from the group into the drip tray. Since I’m plumbed in, I also don’t
>>> think I’m pushing water backwards to the water line, but perhaps? My house
>>> pressure is about 50-60psi, so quite high. Since the steam boiler is set to
>>> about 1.5bar (about 22psi), it seems unlikely that this would be possible.
>>>
>>> I guess I did have one other idea, which was that the volume-adjustment
>>> rod/sensor (the one that inserts into the steam boiler, with a wire on top,
>>> to shut off the pump when water reaches it) might be scaled and so making a
>>> poor connection/ground. I doubt this, however, since I had basically no
>>> scale last year when everything was torn down, and I rarely de-scale the
>>> machine. So a year later I doubt this non-heating and highly polished piece
>>> has accumulated much scale, if any.
>>>
>>> Otherwise, all is working normally (except the p-stat of course).
>>>
>>> Any ideas? Is there a logic board that could be failing and causing this
>>> symptom? Last year, I replaced the giemme controller, the PID, the
>>> solenoid, temp probe, both high-limit switches, p-stat, etc. It seems
>>> unlikely that something electronic is the cause here, but perhaps. I did
>>> not replace the solid state relay, and have been told it rarely fails. But
>>> could it be the culprit? I definitely am out of my league on diagnosing
>>> this one.
>>>
>>> All best,
>>> Ben
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