Ben I had one of the little Saeco's too! It was my first machine and the
brewtus II was my second. Sure has been a lot of changes in machines since
the old Saeco.

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 1:20 AM, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]>
wrote:

> That’s kind of awesome. I don’t recall exactly when I got my B2, but
> somewhere around 2006 or 2007 I think. I also had a Krups Mini, and then a
> Saeco Rio Vapore before it became a Starbucks branded machine. I have them
> both in the hall of fame, where the B2 will reside if replaced…
>
> All best,
> bmc
>
>
> On Dec 19, 2016, at 18:49, Stephen Gould <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I have also considered a new machine, and moving this one to the GF's
> house,  but haven't done enough serious looking to have anything really
> catch my eye.   You guys we're here before me when I joined this merry
> little band in I think 2006, so I look forward to learning what machines
> you are leaning towards.  It certainly is a different market than when I
> first started looking after my first little Krups machine died.  And I lost
> the taste for Cafe Bustelo.  Then I bought a super auto that couldn't come
> close to making espresso, found the highly reviewed B11 and here I am.
>
> I still mutter "mmm that's good " after the first sip.
>
>
>
> On Dec 19, 2016, at 8:32 PM, herman dickens <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I'll probably keep mine. lol. I'll just be using it somewhere else. We'll
> still be around to help if we can.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
> (678) 521-5097
> [email protected]
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 8:05 PM, StevieG. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Don't do it guys!  I will be the only one left with a BII!  Don't leave
>> me!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 5:19:51 PM UTC-5, todds wrote:
>>>
>>> HI Ben,
>>>
>>> No the companies Quick Mill and ECM are not related in any way. And the
>>> machines are pretty different.
>>>
>>> The ECM has done a very good job with this and their other machines.  It
>>> is German company but the machines are made in Italy.
>>>
>>> One thing to keep in mind that if you every have to do home repairs
>>> there is nothing easier to work on.
>>>
>>> The boilers are all stainless steel and all the components are top
>>> quality.
>>>
>>>
>>> This shows a cut away Profitec Pro700 (similar to the ECM Synchronika)
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmSHw1Fudpg&t=780s
>>>
>>> This shows the ECM Synchronika
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hunFv7E51L8
>>>
>>>
>>> Take a look!
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]> wr
>>> ote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Todd,
>>>> That has a lot of similarities to the Quick Mill Vetrano 2B Evo. Are
>>>> the two companies related by chance? Or even the same company with
>>>> different product lines?
>>>> best,
>>>> bmc
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:40, Todd Salzman <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>
>>>> If you want beauty, quality of build and some really nice functionality
>>>> take a look at this ECM.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.wholelattelove.com/products/ecm-synchronika-dual
>>>> -boiler-espresso-machine
>>>>
>>>> As far as I am concern this is a best in class!!
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you have any question about it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!!
>>>>
>>>> Todd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>> Hope you’re all well and having a great holiday season!
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m considering replacing my old Brewtus 2, and pretty much everything
>>>>> is on the table.  I visited Synesso last week (wow, awesome people and
>>>>> facility, amazing machine technology, totally open culture), spoke via
>>>>> email with Slayer (nice machine, but totally different culture—very
>>>>> restrictive, want a liability waiver to build wood parts, won’t deal with
>>>>> customers directly, etc.), and have been perusing just about everything I
>>>>> can find online (simonelli, van der westen, etc.).
>>>>>
>>>>> In the end, I am not sure I can convince myself I need to be at those
>>>>> price points, but who knows. I’ve always had my eye on the Alex Duetto, 
>>>>> and
>>>>> it’s just come out in a v.4 with some nice changes/additions. As an added
>>>>> bonus, I could keep my business with Todd and WLL, who have been nothing
>>>>> short of amazing over the years of Brewtus ownership.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I’m just sort of kicking it around and wonder what experiences
>>>>> you’ve all had with the Alex, Synesso, etc. or any others that might not 
>>>>> be
>>>>> on my radar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Things that are important to me:
>>>>> —Amazing espresso (of course) and powerful steam
>>>>> —Beautiful design and heavy machine that’s well-built with little/no
>>>>> vibration
>>>>> —Somewhat manual experience if desired (i.e. push button machines are
>>>>> not for me—I love the E61 but would consider something else for 
>>>>> significant
>>>>> gains in coffee quality)
>>>>> —Ability to plumb in both water and drip tray
>>>>> —Can do either 110 or 220
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, all the best and talk soon.
>>>>> Ben
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