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On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 5:19:51 PM UTC-5, todds wrote:
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> HI Ben,
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> No the companies Quick Mill and ECM are not related in any way. And the 
> machines are pretty different.
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> The ECM has done a very good job with this and their other machines.  It 
> is German company but the machines are made in Italy.
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> One thing to keep in mind that if you every have to do home repairs there 
> is nothing easier to work on.
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> The boilers are all stainless steel and all the components are top quality.
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> This shows a cut away Profitec Pro700 (similar to the ECM Synchronika)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmSHw1Fudpg&t=780s
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> This shows the ECM Synchronika
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hunFv7E51L8
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> Take a look!
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> Todd 
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> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
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>> Thanks Todd,
>> That has a lot of similarities to the Quick Mill Vetrano 2B Evo. Are the 
>> two companies related by chance? Or even the same company with different 
>> product lines?
>> best,
>> bmc
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:40, Todd Salzman <[email protected] 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
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>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> If you want beauty, quality of build and some really nice functionality 
>> take a look at this ECM.
>>
>>
>> https://www.wholelattelove.com/products/ecm-synchronika-dual-boiler-espresso-machine
>>
>> As far as I am concern this is a best in class!!
>>
>> Let me know if you have any question about it.
>>
>> Thanks!!
>>
>> Todd
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>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected] 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
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>>> Hey all,
>>> Hope you’re all well and having a great holiday season!
>>>
>>> I’m considering replacing my old Brewtus 2, and pretty much everything 
>>> is on the table.  I visited Synesso last week (wow, awesome people and 
>>> facility, amazing machine technology, totally open culture), spoke via 
>>> email with Slayer (nice machine, but totally different culture—very 
>>> restrictive, want a liability waiver to build wood parts, won’t deal with 
>>> customers directly, etc.), and have been perusing just about everything I 
>>> can find online (simonelli, van der westen, etc.).
>>>
>>> In the end, I am not sure I can convince myself I need to be at those 
>>> price points, but who knows. I’ve always had my eye on the Alex Duetto, and 
>>> it’s just come out in a v.4 with some nice changes/additions. As an added 
>>> bonus, I could keep my business with Todd and WLL, who have been nothing 
>>> short of amazing over the years of Brewtus ownership.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I’m just sort of kicking it around and wonder what experiences 
>>> you’ve all had with the Alex, Synesso, etc. or any others that might not be 
>>> on my radar.
>>>
>>> Things that are important to me:
>>> —Amazing espresso (of course) and powerful steam
>>> —Beautiful design and heavy machine that’s well-built with little/no 
>>> vibration
>>> —Somewhat manual experience if desired (i.e. push button machines are 
>>> not for me—I love the E61 but would consider something else for significant 
>>> gains in coffee quality)
>>> —Ability to plumb in both water and drip tray
>>> —Can do either 110 or 220
>>>
>>> OK, all the best and talk soon.
>>> Ben
>>>
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