I'll probably keep mine. lol. I'll just be using it somewhere else. We'll
still be around to help if we can.

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 8:05 PM, StevieG. <[email protected]> wrote:

> Don't do it guys!  I will be the only one left with a BII!  Don't leave me!
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 5:19:51 PM UTC-5, todds wrote:
>>
>> HI Ben,
>>
>> No the companies Quick Mill and ECM are not related in any way. And the
>> machines are pretty different.
>>
>> The ECM has done a very good job with this and their other machines.  It
>> is German company but the machines are made in Italy.
>>
>> One thing to keep in mind that if you every have to do home repairs there
>> is nothing easier to work on.
>>
>> The boilers are all stainless steel and all the components are top
>> quality.
>>
>>
>> This shows a cut away Profitec Pro700 (similar to the ECM Synchronika)
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmSHw1Fudpg&t=780s
>>
>> This shows the ECM Synchronika
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hunFv7E51L8
>>
>>
>> Take a look!
>>
>> Todd
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Todd,
>>> That has a lot of similarities to the Quick Mill Vetrano 2B Evo. Are the
>>> two companies related by chance? Or even the same company with different
>>> product lines?
>>> best,
>>> bmc
>>>
>>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:40, Todd Salzman <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> If you want beauty, quality of build and some really nice functionality
>>> take a look at this ECM.
>>>
>>> https://www.wholelattelove.com/products/ecm-synchronika-dual
>>> -boiler-espresso-machine
>>>
>>> As far as I am concern this is a best in class!!
>>>
>>> Let me know if you have any question about it.
>>>
>>> Thanks!!
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>> Hope you’re all well and having a great holiday season!
>>>>
>>>> I’m considering replacing my old Brewtus 2, and pretty much everything
>>>> is on the table.  I visited Synesso last week (wow, awesome people and
>>>> facility, amazing machine technology, totally open culture), spoke via
>>>> email with Slayer (nice machine, but totally different culture—very
>>>> restrictive, want a liability waiver to build wood parts, won’t deal with
>>>> customers directly, etc.), and have been perusing just about everything I
>>>> can find online (simonelli, van der westen, etc.).
>>>>
>>>> In the end, I am not sure I can convince myself I need to be at those
>>>> price points, but who knows. I’ve always had my eye on the Alex Duetto, and
>>>> it’s just come out in a v.4 with some nice changes/additions. As an added
>>>> bonus, I could keep my business with Todd and WLL, who have been nothing
>>>> short of amazing over the years of Brewtus ownership.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I’m just sort of kicking it around and wonder what experiences
>>>> you’ve all had with the Alex, Synesso, etc. or any others that might not be
>>>> on my radar.
>>>>
>>>> Things that are important to me:
>>>> —Amazing espresso (of course) and powerful steam
>>>> —Beautiful design and heavy machine that’s well-built with little/no
>>>> vibration
>>>> —Somewhat manual experience if desired (i.e. push button machines are
>>>> not for me—I love the E61 but would consider something else for significant
>>>> gains in coffee quality)
>>>> —Ability to plumb in both water and drip tray
>>>> —Can do either 110 or 220
>>>>
>>>> OK, all the best and talk soon.
>>>> Ben
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