Re: Tragedy in Israel

[JonNRob2002]

In a message dated 12/23/2001 5:05:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<At 11:47 21-12-01 -0500, Jon Williams wrote>>

Ummmm nope.  I'm not Jon Williams, whoever that is. :)  I'm Jon Gabriel.  Will this affect my Alpha Mail standings?  ;)  hehe

Jeroen wrote:
>>My question was meant as a general one, not one specifically about Israeli
>>war criminals and Palestinian terrorists. Murder is a crime; terrorism is a
>>crime; stealing a bicycle is a crime. If Sonja would commit a crime (*any*
>>crime), would that make me and our son guilty of harboring a criminal?
>

I wrote:
There is a HUGE difference between terrorism and minor crimes. Jeroen, you
>are trying to minimize the point of her argument.  And if I may say,
>comparing the murder of many innocent people to stealing a bicycle and
>trying to equate them is very VERY disingenuous of you.

Jeroen wrote:
That sentence was a set-up for the next one. It was intended to make
obvious that when I said "*any* crime" I did indeed mean *any* crime, not
only crimes like murder. I guess that was lost on you.

The assumption that I would equate murder with stealing a bicycle is
absolutely ridiculous.>>

<<But then, I have already become accustomed to people reading things in my
posts that are not there...   :-(>>

I read the paragraph again and I still see the same thing, and I don't think this was a misunderstanding on my part.  It looks very much to me like you are trying to make them all equivalent.  You said 'if Sonja commits a crime, any crime, and harbors the person who commits it, is she a criminal?'  My reply explains that this can't be answered as phrased, because 'any' crime is not considered equal to 'any other' in the eyes of the court.  (Another way to answer would be 'It depends on the crime.')  In my mind, by asking this question, in this manner you are trying to say terrorism = stealing a bicycle in severity.

If I'm wrong, then I withdraw the accusation, and apologize for my misunderstanding -- but my explanation of how the crimes are interpreted differently here in the US still holds true.

Ah well..
Jon