Dan M. wrote
<< I suppose you could construct a theoretical case where terrorism could be
justified.  It certainly isn't here. Considering that the Palestinians are
part of the agrees party, that has overtly tried to destroy Israel no less
than 4 times, and still having the goal of destroying Israel (and likely
killing all the Jews in Israel), its hard to find their behavior ethical.
Is there something special about Israel that makes it's destruction
ethical?>>

Trent Shipley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<<I disagree.  It is unclear to me that Palestinians or Arabs are the
agressor party.  >>

Ilana
5 wars started by Arab countries. And it is not clear enough yet?

Trent
<<Zionism is not racism _per se_.  However, it is an *inherently* colonial
project.  Israel was paid for by expropriating Arab land.  >>

Ilana
Israel bought most of it's lands! And Arabs sold it. Some of the land were
sold several times.

Trent
<<Oh well, that's politics.  I'm American.  My homeland was paid for by
Indians.  >>

Ilana
Who gave land for peace. Just like you think of Israel is moral to do.

Tent
<<Too bad the early Zionist pioneers either couldn't or didn't exterminate
or neutralize the "aboriginal" Palestinian population.  (They had much
better luck with Bedoin.)>>

Ilana
Huh? Early Zionist pioneers had good relationships with they Arab Neighbours
as long as they permitted them to do guarding duty and to steal them blind.
The day Jewish guarding organization Hashomer was found was the start of
open fights. Some of Bedoin are Israeli citizens and even serve in Army. Do
you remember when four Israeli soldiers were killed in Gaza? Probably not.
Do you remember when Israel, retaliating, destroyed 52 empty hoses and how
quickly there were suddenly "refugees" who claimed been thrown our of houses
in the middle of the night? You, probably, do. Those four soldiers were from
Bedoin unit. Not retaliating would have brought accusation of discrimination
and/or independent reaction by the friends of the killed. As things stood
they were mad, that they got "only to destroy empty houses" they believed
that their friends' blood cost more. I agree. Israel made mistake with
bedoim - they tried to settle them. Most of the cities stand deserted. It
*is* hard to deal with nomad society and meet it's needs.


Trent wrote
<<There are a lot of Palestinians left.  They are going to try to reconquer
their land.>>

Ilana
But not from Jordan. Although most of Jordan population are Palestinians.
They remember black October too well. They also remember who was fool enough
to give them shelter when Jordan king butchered them. In case you don't know
- it was Israel.

Trent
<<The Spanish did it. 
The Portuguese did it.
The Dutch did it.
The Irish did it.
The Algerians did it.
The East Timorese did it.>>

Ilana
And Israel would do it. Bemehera, beyameinu, Amen.

Ilana from Israel

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